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Post  GWN on 3/26/2012, 4:01 pm

Well semi urgent....
While I was just sitting down for lunch, thinking, my back has had about enough gardening for one day (digging out all the dirt from my raised beds to prepare for MM)
My neighbour shows up with two very old and established grape vines
He is doing some landscaping and a back hoe dug up these grapes.
They are green and if they are anything like the existing bush on our property Delicious ......
Since both of our properties are part of a very old farm, I gather that they are all the same.

Anyways I said SURE and the proceeded to rush out and dig 2 a very big deep holes and have filled them with water and am soaking the roots in water now.
What I need to know is what next?
The bushes are dormant right now, I am not sure if they have any chance of surviving, but is there anything I can add to the base before I fill in the dirt that might give them a better chance??? sunny
Is this a time for sea fertilizer..? OR not?
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Post  FamilyGardening on 3/26/2012, 5:25 pm

congrats cheers on your new grape vines!!!

we just put in some new grape plants as well Very Happy

i did a little bit of research and one thing i wanted to share with you..... is make sure that where you are planting them.... that the area will provide support for the vines....if you dont have a perm place to put them you can put them in a container for awhile and then transplant them....

my hubby dug the hole and put in a bit of organic matter around the roots and a bit of organic fert (the same kind that is used for berry plants).......then layed down a bunch of card board ....then added a bunch of tree mulch about three inch thick or so......then watered well

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Post  GWN on 3/26/2012, 5:38 pm

THANKS THANKS.....
Well the video, shows I perhaps might have done something wrong.
I googled it and it said that grapes did NOT need real fertile soil
So I dug a large hole, filled it with water, but a teensy weensy bit of transplant fertilizer in the water, then I put about 1.5 gallons of mels mix into the water around the roots and then filled it back with the soil I had removed, and topped it off with the soil from last years raised beds.

I am SOOO glad to have seen this video, as I MIGHT have over filled the base of the plant...
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Well know, that was timely!

Post  tomperrin on 3/26/2012, 5:59 pm

My grapes and apples arrived from Miller's today.

Thanks,

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Post  GWN on 3/26/2012, 6:05 pm

All seems to be OK
My neighbour just had a backhoe guy dig it up, and then they threw it into the back of his truck.
Unfortunately I think he might have cut back the shoots a bit too far according to that video, but there are still a few shoots,...

I never know what he is going to bring over, he is SUCH a great neighbour, perhaps a wee bit impulsive
Last summer we looked out to this horrendous noise and he was dragging a shed across the cul-de-sac over to our place..... The shed survived... Lets hope the grapes to too.
He now says I can come and get his blackberries and raspberries. Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  RoOsTeR on 3/26/2012, 7:32 pm

Last summer we looked out to this horrendous noise and he was dragging a shed across the cul-de-sac over to our place..... The shed survived... Lets hope the grapes to too.
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Post  offtheporch on 3/26/2012, 9:26 pm

I don't think you have to be too meticulous about your planting. They are usually pretty hardy. In fact I have some vines that I've tried to prune back and basically kill! They just keep coming back with a vengence. My soil is quite sandy and not very rich at all.
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Post  Goosegirl on 3/26/2012, 9:51 pm

I wouldn't worry about them too much. Grapes are hardy! There are some vineyards in the CA wine country that purposely plant their new vines right before the rainy season to get them established and then do not irrigate the vines after that to encourage them to send down deep roots into the volcanic soil/rock in search of the water that is in the volcanic rock layers several feet below - to create a good strong root system that will anchor them well and make them drought tolerant.

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Post  GWN on 3/26/2012, 10:33 pm

My only experience with Grapes is that we had a place in Eugene oregon that we purchased in October and the grape vines were totally loaded with grapes.
The following spring my husband pruned them and that year we got NO GRAPEs.....
When we moved up to Canada I really would have preferred to purchase an orchard (because life is short and who knows if you will live long enough for the fruit trees you plant to bear)
However we ended up with a bare piece of property, that we would have to start ALL OVER AGAIN. We planted about 12 fruit trees....
BUT WAIT... there was this one grape vine that the neighbour has watered, but had never fruited until the year before we purchased.
And last year it fruited and boy did it fruit.... we were eating the very best green grapes I have ever had for several weeks.
So today when he offered me a VERY OLD VINE, I thought if this succeeded, I would be skipping several years of waiting for a new plant to produce.
So IF it is as hardy as you all say, I will have SOME grapes this year and tons next year.

He arrived later today with a large overgrown blackberry bush (non thorny), which I carefully divided into 4 plants and planted 4 feet apart.
Tomorrow he is getting rid of his raspberries.
I have no idea why this guy is getting rid of all these very cool well established plants, but rather than going to the dump, I am just taking them all. Very Happy
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Post  offtheporch on 3/27/2012, 6:56 am

GWN: It depends on how the grape vines are pruned as to how much fruit you will get that year, as with anything you prune. I hope you are successful with your fruit projects, and have lots of fun! Cool
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Post  GWN on 3/27/2012, 10:30 am

GWN: It depends on how the grape vines are pruned as to how much fruit you will get that year, as with anything you prune. I hope you are successful with your fruit projects, and have lots of fun!

YES YES YES..... he did all the reading, watched the videos on utube and this time he did it again..... All an effort to get as many grapes as possible.
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