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Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on Sun 1 Apr - 21:42

How long does it take for a plant to show signs of low nitrogen in its growing medium?
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Re: Low Nitrogen Question

Post  camprn on Sun 1 Apr - 21:57

It depends upon how much nitrogen was originally there.

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Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on Sun 1 Apr - 22:02

I wanted to run a test on my compost so I bought a pansy last Monday, cut about half of the rootball off and replanted it in a pot filled with my compost that's still "cooking". So far the pansy is doing great. It looks very green and the purple flowers are vibrant.
If the compost isn't finished, wouldn't the pansy have yellowing leaves?
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Post  camprn on Sun 1 Apr - 22:31

@Too Tall Tomatoes wrote:I wanted to run a test on my compost so I bought a pansy last Monday, cut about half of the rootball off and replanted it in a pot filled with my compost that's still "cooking". So far the pansy is doing great. It looks very green and the purple flowers are vibrant.
If the compost isn't finished, wouldn't the pansy have yellowing leaves?
I would say no, some things in the pile may not be completely broken down but SOME of the stuff in the compost pile has completed it's breakdown. Your compost pile is pretty much done when it is about the same temperature as the ambient air temperature.

I would caution about cutting OFF part of the root ball instead of doing a few slices to promote growth.
Aren't pansy lovely. They seem such a happy flower. flower

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Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on Sun 1 Apr - 22:37

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@Too Tall Tomatoes wrote:I wanted to run a test on my compost so I bought a pansy last Monday, cut about half of the rootball off and replanted it in a pot filled with my compost that's still "cooking". So far the pansy is doing great. It looks very green and the purple flowers are vibrant.
If the compost isn't finished, wouldn't the pansy have yellowing leaves?
I would say no, some things in the pile may not be completely broken down but SOME of the stuff in the compost pile has completed it's breakdown. Your compost pile is pretty much done when it is about the same temperature as the ambient air temperature.

I would caution about cutting OFF part of the root ball instead of doing a few slices to promote growth.
Aren't pansy lovely. They seem such a happy flower. flower

Doing the pansy test was just something I wanted to try. I thought cutting off part of the pansy's rootball wouldn't be a good idea but the woman at the local greenhouse suggested doing such a thing when I bought a flat of pansies to put into one of those hanging bags.

Typically to promote new growth on a transplant, I'd just break up the rootball a little bit and perhaps cut some of the roots, particularly if the transplant is rootbound.
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Re: Low Nitrogen Question

Post  littlejo on Sun 1 Apr - 22:37

Your 'unfinished' compost may have still had lots of nitrogen available. I don't know about Pansies, but plants that are over sensitive to low nitrogen might be bothered. Only plant that hates being without correct nutrients that I know of is tomatoes. Don't have it right and they will let you know(yellow leaves)

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Re: Low Nitrogen Question

Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on Sun 1 Apr - 22:45

I'm pretty confident that my compost will be ready in time.....I just felt like running a test on it. Hey the pansy isn't dead and now I have a nice potted flower. What a Face
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Re: Low Nitrogen Question

Post  GWN on Mon 2 Apr - 2:08

It would seem that there are many variables to this experiment that would need to be accounted for in order for it to be fully meaningful.
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Variables: such as how much nitrogen the plant needs, how much nitrogen it already was given, how long it might tolerate low nitrogen, how well it might tolerate having its roots cut off.

I thought that the compost just started to cool off when it was ready.

You certainly are the compost queen.......... I am sure your compost is going to be just fine, I am impressed
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Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on Mon 2 Apr - 2:42

@GWN wrote:You certainly are the compost queen.......... I am sure your compost is going to be just fine, I am impressed

I'm not a queen. I'm a man.

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Re: Low Nitrogen Question

Post  RoOsTeR on Mon 2 Apr - 3:05

Doh! rofl

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Re: Low Nitrogen Question

Post  GWN on Mon 2 Apr - 3:16

affraid I give up! whoops...... yahoo yahoo
Well it was bound to happen, I am always trying to figure out this stuff...
Well I could try to recover here but perhaps I will just reality check off into the sunrise
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Post  FamilyGardening on Mon 2 Apr - 3:17

lol!
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Post  UnderTheBlackWalnut on Mon 2 Apr - 3:28

Psst - Hey GWN! If you ride off into the sunrise, then I will be the only one left with the same foot-in-mouth disease...letcha in on a little secret...

Check out the stuff under the avatar - if the poster has selected to show a gender, you'll see either a blue male symbol (circle with arrow pointing to upper right) or the pink female symbol (circle with cross below it).

Hey TTT - thanks for being a good sport AND a compost KING! Smile

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Post  GWN on Mon 2 Apr - 3:43

Thanks for the diplomacy undertheblackwalnut. The only other forum I have been on before was a gynaecological cancer forum, and so I guess I got accustomed to most if not all the respondents being female.
In the proverbial effort to "get on with life" I decided to trade one forum for another more positive forum. I hope that TTT was genuinely humoured by the mistake, as he seemed. I DO love this forum and it definitely is POSITIVE!
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Post  UnderTheBlackWalnut on Mon 2 Apr - 3:49

GWN -

BIG hug

He's a pretty cool dude so I'm gonna bet he's rofl ...and you were right on - his compost info is pretty darned impressive! Between he and Camp, they've about given me the guts to try this process out this year... Smile

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Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on Mon 2 Apr - 4:05

This is the funniest thing that's happened to me in a while. Seriously!
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Post  curio on Mon 2 Apr - 14:05

@Too Tall Tomatoes wrote:
@GWN wrote:You certainly are the compost queen.......... I am sure your compost is going to be just fine, I am impressed

I'm not a queen. I'm a man.


not going there.... just NOT!!
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