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Re: Carrot Week 2012!

Post  FamilyGardening on 5/3/2012, 9:40 pm

we have a sprout again .....one.....

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Re: Carrot Week 2012!

Post  ericam on 5/3/2012, 11:49 pm

Protect that sprout and wrap him in cotton wool! Fingers crossed for you! cheers

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Re: Carrot Week 2012!

Post  plantoid on 5/4/2012, 5:57 am

FamilyGardening wrote:its almost day 22 for us.....the one sprout we had is still gone ( what would eat the sprout??) and there are no others showing.....when do you replant?

we are having a really hard time with carrots this year.....we have some planted in our SFG's and others in our new raised beds.....one type in our raised beds have all sprouted very well....we planted about 10 differnt types and the rest of them only had a couple germ.....:scratch:

we over winted some carrots too....they are tall...over a foot...lush and green..but only about an inch of the top root end has grown and is orange....the rest is like a long white root.....then...the really skinny root part.....







sorry if this is not the right thread for our questions What a Face

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Rose ,

To me the top picture indicated that the bed has been too dry for a while and then got a soaking that has only penetrated the top few inches ,hence the emergency new roots breaking out to get nourishnemt in the newly damp soil.

Like most veg carrots need a good level of moisture all the time to grow well but don't drown them or water so much you wash out all the neutrients from the bed.

the best test i've found so far is to use an 8 inch long moisture meter probe . one of my beds was much dryer than the others .

It ws the first bed I filled after making my MM up un a large wheel barrow using buckets of components . I reckon I'd mis counted and gone too heavy on the peat/ leaf mould side of things for after adding a couple of buckets of composted straw & animal manures to the bed it's started to retain the moisture better.

Looking at the bottom picture I can see why it may have been too dry . The wooden sides of the tub will take out a lot of water and there are a heck of a lot of carrots in the tub. It may not be too late to do some serious thinning to give one carrot every 3 inches apart , but before you do the thinning really water the tub well several times over a couple of hours to make it easier to do and not so stressful on the carrots that stay behind.

Next time try using the grid of 16 carrots or 3 in ch spacings which ever is the most suitable for the tub.and keep away from the wooden sides and /or line the tub with a plastic back that has a few drain holes in the bottom

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Post  FamilyGardening on 5/4/2012, 6:07 am

thanks plantoid Very Happy

these carrots in the pic above were over wintered here in the PNW....do you think that they were to dry during the summer months when first planted and then got to much water this spring?....since we get tons of rain Smile

they are also planted in MM that was made up fresh last spring for them.....this container had first set of carrots in it last spring that seem to do well....this is a second planting that we left to over winter from last year.....hope that made since Very Happy

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Post  Icemaiden on 5/4/2012, 8:24 am

I've got THREE seedlings Very Happy on day 21. I've been looking every day for the last week adn I think I dragged these ones out by force of mind.

we over winted some carrots too....they are tall...over a foot...lush
and green..but only about an inch of the top root end has grown and is
orange....the rest is like a long white

I didn't know that you could overwinter carrots. I've only done it by accident i.e. forgot to pull them up in the autumn. Then they do look like yours a bit. I think it is just their attempt to regrow after being dormant, they put out lots of thin whispy roots.

I thought that carrots were not particularly good if left to grow for a second season as they just go to seed then because they are biennials. Am I wrong about that? Is it sensible to leave the small ones in over winter?

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Post  givvmistamps on 5/4/2012, 1:49 pm

Icemaiden wrote:I've got THREE seedlings Very Happy on day 21. I've been looking every day for the last week adn I think I dragged these ones out by force of mind.

Have you been talking to the seeds to encourage them to grow? I do that, by the way...

Icemaiden wrote:I thought that carrots were not particularly good if left to grow for a second season as they just go to seed then because they are biennials. Am I wrong about that? Is it sensible to leave the small ones in over winter?

I remember my Composting & Gardening professor saying that she would
leave her carrots in the ground until she was ready to eat or sell them
during the winter. She did the same with potatoes. That was in the Piedmont of VA, where the ground
didn't really freeze, so I don't know if it would work in colder
climates.

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Re: Carrot Week 2012!

Post  plantoid on 5/4/2012, 2:01 pm

FamilyGardening wrote:thanks plantoid Very Happy

these carrots in the pic above were over wintered here in the PNW....do you think that they were to dry during the summer months when first planted and then got to much water this spring?....since we get tons of rain Smile

they are also planted in MM that was made up fresh last spring for them.....this container had first set of carrots in it last spring that seem to do well....this is a second planting that we left to over winter from last year.....hope that made since Very Happy

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That's interesting Rose ,

Over wintered you say .. I wonder... if that changes the cause to the carrots thinking it is the second year and they are going to try and make seeds .

Were they dryer than normal during the winter ?

Are the carrots long roots or supposed to be only four inches long but very chunky and conical or supposed to be golfball sized ones ( Shorts ) ?


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Re: Carrot Week 2012!

Post  CarolinaGirl on 5/4/2012, 7:59 pm

Carrot box picture:

Top square is Danvers Half Long, bottom square is Scarlet Nantes for carrot week.

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Re: Carrot Week 2012!

Post  FamilyGardening on 5/4/2012, 8:59 pm

plantoid wrote:
FamilyGardening wrote:thanks plantoid Very Happy

these carrots in the pic above were over wintered here in the PNW....do you think that they were to dry during the summer months when first planted and then got to much water this spring?....since we get tons of rain Smile

they are also planted in MM that was made up fresh last spring for them.....this container had first set of carrots in it last spring that seem to do well....this is a second planting that we left to over winter from last year.....hope that made since Very Happy

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That's interesting Rose ,

Over wintered you say .. I wonder... if that changes the cause to the carrots thinking it is the second year and they are going to try and make seeds .

Were they dryer than normal during the winter ?

Are the carrots long roots or supposed to be only four inches long but very chunky and conical or supposed to be golfball sized ones ( Shorts ) ?

we had two differnt types of carrots that were planted last year in these containers......i only have one of the packages left to look at....but both were pretty much the same thing just a differnt name....both i believe were from TT seed company and both nate type hybreds with 6/7 inch long carrots..both orange......

this year we are trying to keep better records.....What a Face

carrots is the favorite of this family and we really are having a hard time growing a bounty of them....last year we did get a few nice ones and the taste was wonderful....the year before that....we planted 4 sq and got lots of green tops but no carrots to eat Sad very disapointing....(that was our first year of SFG)....this year....our third year of SFG .....the germ is very slow....and most are just not germ very well at all.....we are trying about 10 differnt types.....so far the Ferry Morse Long Imperator in our new raised beds have germ the best Very Happy

so far in our SFG box's we have ( planted on or around the 12th of april)

1 sq of Nelsons hybrid (TT seed company) 1 sprout-contest carrots

1 sq of Denver half longs (ED Humes) about 8 germ

1 sq of Cosmic purple (ED Humes) 0 germ

1 sq of Solar yellow (ED Humes) 0 germ

our childrens self water containers with Second year of MM with fresh compost

so far their carrots are gem a lot faster!! cheers they just popped up the last couple of days......

our sons....(planted about a week ago)

Cosmic purple (ED Humes) a few

Solar yellow (ED Humes) a few

Nutri Red (Ferry Morse) a few

our daughters....(planted about a week ago)

Denvers (Ferry Morse) a few

out in our new raised beds.....(Planted 3-25-12)

4 sq of Long Imperator(Ferry Morse)......most germ and had to thin

these all have a couple to no sprouts: Shocked

2 sq of Verduras (strover)

3 sq of Nutri Red (Ferry Morse)

1 sq of Rainbow (ED Humes)

1 sq of Nelsons hybrid (TT seed company)

2 sq of Red Chanteny ( heirloom-Lilly Miller)

2 sq of Touchon (heirloom-Burpees)

2 sq of Denvers (Ferry Morse)

as you can see thats a lot of carrot seeds planted with very few sprouts What a Face

help........we want carrots this year!

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Re: Carrot Week 2012!

Post  Daniel9999 on 5/4/2012, 9:38 pm

I was afraid to post pics of my carrots because I was afraid I be way behind some of the people here but It looks like I am not doing too bad...



Those are Dragon Carrots on the far left......This morning I sowed some more Dragon Carrots along with a Rainbow Carrot Mix from Ferry Morse in the empty squares seen above.

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Post  quiltbea on 5/4/2012, 9:41 pm

You're ahead of me. Mine aren't up yet but then I've been inside the last couple of days due to rain so maybe when I can venture out, I'll finally see some progress.

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Post  chjbr63 on 5/4/2012, 9:58 pm

Hey Rose,

I tried a method I found on this site. Maybe it will help you get better germ rate. http://www.growveg.com/growblogpost.aspx?id=174 It is for spinach be she claims it works for carrots too. I tried it on both and so far I'm at 70% germ and expecting more to pop out anytime now. Spinach came up pretty much like she said(5 days). I planted 2 squares of Nantes Coreless leftover from last year. Day 21 now and most came up in the last couple of days but it has been rather cold here.

Chris

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Post  Turan on 5/4/2012, 10:32 pm

chjbr63 wrote:Hey Rose,

I tried a method I found on this site. Maybe it will help you get better germ rate. http://www.growveg.com/growblogpost.aspx?id=174 It is for spinach be she claims it works for carrots too. I tried it on both and so far I'm at 70% germ and expecting more to pop out anytime now. Spinach came up pretty much like she said(5 days). I planted 2 squares of Nantes Coreless leftover from last year. Day 21 now and most came up in the last couple of days but it has been rather cold here.

Chris

Woah, that priming stuff is really interesting! I would of thought doing htat soaking/drying/storing routine would kill the seeds. Ok, gotta go try it with beets and spinach. Thanks!

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Post  RoOsTeR on 5/4/2012, 11:49 pm

Daniel9999 wrote:I was afraid to post pics of my carrots because I was afraid I be way behind some of the people here but It looks like I am not doing too bad...



Those are Dragon Carrots on the far left......This morning I sowed some more Dragon Carrots along with a Rainbow Carrot Mix from Ferry Morse in the empty squares seen above.

No need for embarrassment around here. I think your garden looks great Daniel9999 and your carrots are way ahead of mine.

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Post  FamilyGardening on 5/4/2012, 11:54 pm

chjbr63 wrote:Hey Rose,

I tried a method I found on this site. Maybe it will help you get better germ rate. http://www.growveg.com/growblogpost.aspx?id=174 It is for spinach be she claims it works for carrots too. I tried it on both and so far I'm at 70% germ and expecting more to pop out anytime now. Spinach came up pretty much like she said(5 days). I planted 2 squares of Nantes Coreless leftover from last year. Day 21 now and most came up in the last couple of days but it has been rather cold here.

Chris

thanks Chris Very Happy

im all for trying new things......i will let you know how it goes!

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Post  chjbr63 on 5/5/2012, 12:01 am

Glad to be of some help, looking forward to hear how it works out.

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