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Post  llama momma on 6/30/2017, 4:11 pm

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Music is a variety of true garlic, or hard neck. Elephant garlic is different and not a true garlic.
I think llama manure in the compost is the secret ingredient.
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Post  donnainzone5 on 6/30/2017, 4:56 pm

I planted 72 garlic cloves, although 4-6 did not come up. 

Nevertheless, I had four volunteers, which I transplanted to the rose area to deter deer; they all developed scapes. 

The first scapes began to appear during the first week of June, so I should be harvesting around the end of this month, bad back permitting.

I'm awaiting a date for surgery....
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 6/30/2017, 5:57 pm

Mine is larger than I thought it would be.  And shading out my cucumbers.  But doing well.  When do you harvest it?  I have 15 plants.  In the middle of my 4x4
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Post  SwampTroll on 6/30/2017, 7:08 pm

To be perfectly honest, I don't think my garlic is growing at all.

The onions that they are next to is going gangbusters, but the garlic seems to be suspended in it's growth cycle.

I haven't had this problem before and I'm just confused.
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Re: Mary Mary quite contrary, how does your garlic grow?

Post  Turan on 6/30/2017, 8:23 pm

Scorpio Rising wrote:Mine is larger than I thought it would be.  And shading out my cucumbers.  But doing well.  When do you harvest it?  I have 15 plants.  In the middle of my 4x4

I think it is roughly 3 weeks to a month after picking most of hte scapes. When about half the foliage has died back. The green leaves create the protective wrapper. You are supposed to cut off the water for the last weeks.... which is impossible in the middle of a bed with other things that need water (mine are with the eggplant, eggplant needs win). I figure if I can not stop watering it is ok, I harvest and give them a long time to cure before cleaning them up. Seems like that is an equivalent. I have had the garlic store well after leaving them in the ground way too long and too wet and it was ok. I have also had failures when I thought I did everything right. But even the failures just meant getting all the cloves peeled and frozen.

Garlic greens, like green onions, are tasty too.

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Post  donnainzone5 on 6/30/2017, 8:34 pm

I can move that portion of my drip system aside for a couple of weeks. 

I just pulled a few "experimental" onions--boiling onions that I planted last fall because I couldn't find any sets.  The ones I pulled were rotten.  However, the remainder appear so far to be healthy.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 6/30/2017, 10:03 pm

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Scorpio Rising wrote:Mine is larger than I thought it would be.  And shading out my cucumbers.  But doing well.  When do you harvest it?  I have 15 plants.  In the middle of my 4x4

I think it is roughly 3 weeks to a month after picking most of hte scapes.  When about half the foliage has died back.  The green leaves create the protective wrapper.  You are supposed to cut off the water for the last weeks....  which is impossible in the middle of a bed with other things that need water (mine are with the eggplant, eggplant needs win).  I figure if I can not stop watering it is ok, I harvest and give them a long time to cure before cleaning them up.  Seems like that is an equivalent.  I have had the garlic store well after leaving them in the ground way too long and too wet and it was ok.  I have also had failures when I thought I did everything right.  But even the failures just meant getting all the cloves peeled and frozen.  

Garlic greens, like green onions, are tasty too.
OK thanks, how do you preserve your garlic?  I have 15 bulbs!!!!?????  You say freeze?
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Post  Turan on 6/30/2017, 11:08 pm

I only freeze if they are not lasting well. After I let them cure I tidy them up and put in an old burlap bag and hang them in the unheated mud room. That room doesn't freeze in the winter but is cooler than the house. I bring in a few bulbs at a time and keep them in a basket next to the stove. Usually they are fine until late spring, some may start to sprout but we chop that up too.

Here is a good resource I found ~
https://www.growveg.com/guides/how-to-harvest-and-cure-garlic/

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Post  SwampTroll on 7/1/2017, 8:57 pm




What's wrong with it?  It was planted at the same time as the onions which you can see going gangbusters at the top of the frame, even the beets on the left are doing better than the garlic appears to be doing. Should I attempt to start over and try with new cloves?
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Post  trolleydriver on 7/1/2017, 9:03 pm

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What's wrong with it?  It was planted at the same time as the onions which you can see going gangbusters at the top of the frame, even the beets on the left are doing better than the garlic appears to be doing. Should I attempt to start over and try with new cloves?
Wait until the Fall and plant your garlic at that time. Make sure you use garlic that is specifically made for growing not the stuff you buy in the super market for eating. Also I think hardneck garlic (e.g., porcelain/music) is what is best to grow in Canada.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 7/1/2017, 9:06 pm

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What's wrong with it?  It was planted at the same time as the onions which you can see going gangbusters at the top of the frame, even the beets on the left are doing better than the garlic appears to be doing. Should I attempt to start over and try with new cloves?
I don't know, it almost looks like it has a virus?  So stunted...I would be tempted to scratch and plant at Halloween for a summer crop.
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Post  BeetlesPerSqFt on 7/2/2017, 6:33 am

Two of my garlic varieties look like they have yellow streak virus:
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Post  SwampTroll on 7/2/2017, 11:19 am

Yeah. 

What I had was specifically for growing, not eating.  Not sure which variety it was, but I did pick it up from my local garden center.
Think I'm going to repurpose that square and see if I can get some kale in.   Weather's been wet and cool enough, that I might be able to get at least one harvest in.  Wish I had some daikon seeds to try in there.

Now to figure out where to find some hardneck garlic around here.
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Post  trolleydriver on 7/2/2017, 1:01 pm

SwampTroll wrote:Yeah. 

What I had was specifically for growing, not eating.  Not sure which variety it was, but I did pick it up from my local garden center.
Think I'm going to repurpose that square and see if I can get some kale in.   Weather's been wet and cool enough, that I might be able to get at least one harvest in.  Wish I had some daikon seeds to try in there.

Now to figure out where to find some hardneck garlic around here.
ST ... If you cannot find hardneck garlic at a local garden centre you can order some from Vesey's Bulbs in Charlottetown, PEI. You probably will not find it in garden centres at this time of the year but at the end of summer they should start getting it in.

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Post  SwampTroll on 7/2/2017, 2:17 pm

Thanks.  Definitely going to have to try the hardnecks.  Never attempted to grow those. 

Perhaps while I'm ordering, I'll pick up some flowering alliums.
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Post  trolleydriver on 7/5/2017, 9:37 am

Concise article on harvesting and storing garlic ...

https://tinyurl.com/yamprp5d


Planting garlic (not ANSFG) ...

http://growagoodlife.com/planting-garlic-3/

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/30/2017, 7:51 pm

OK, so I harvested about 15 bulbs.  In July.  Some were past prime, and once cured, pulled apart a bit.  Have a couple away mostly to kids...

Should I plant the pulled apart "past prime " cloves for next year?  Does that have any effect on ability of the garlic plant to "make it"?  I have some bulbs that are tight and really nice for storing, I am talking about planting cloves from the heads that are a bit apart....not what I would choose to store thinking
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