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Post  BackRiver_SFG on 5/2/2012, 4:34 pm


These sees are a mix of eggplant (indicated by marker) and a variety of jalapenos, Cayenne, habenero and sweet peppers. These were all sown on 3.16.12. They have been receiving about 14 hours of full spectrum, florescent light per day since then. Light has been about 2 inches above the tops. Started in starter soil for veggies. (are you already thinking should've been Mel's mix?)

I don't have any true leaves yet. I was hoping to have much bigger transplants for Late May early June. Any advice on how to give these little ones what they need to improve would be appreciated.

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Post  camprn on 5/2/2012, 4:40 pm

Feed them with a liquid fertilizer. Follow the label directions. As we get more sun and warmth they will get perky! Very Happy

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Post  subsonic on 5/2/2012, 7:41 pm

peppers like WARM
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Post  rmifflin on 5/16/2012, 7:35 am

We had a similar issue, not just with peppers, but other plants as well. Funny thing was that the seeds we started in plastic flats did very well while those in the fiber trays such as the one in your photo did not thrive at all.We bought a couple packs of cheap plastic drinking cups ,transplanted the seedlings and they came back to life. Seedlings transferred to peat pots did not do as well. Peat pots and trays are now persona-non-grata in our garden.
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Post  littlesapphire on 5/16/2012, 8:30 am

My peppers and eggplants are sloooow growing. They took a long time to get their first true leaves. It really just takes them a little while to get up to full steam. Give them a little bit of time and I bet they'll be big and bushy in no time.

Or if you really don't think they'll be big enough, go ahead and buy some starts from a nursery Smile And try again with seeds next year.
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Post  dianamarie03 on 5/16/2012, 9:11 am

Keep them warm and give them a little food (mine seem to like seaweed fertilizer). They are slow growers Smile

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Post  CharlesB on 5/16/2012, 9:32 am

I have had good results giving my pepper seedlings seaweed fertilizer as well. I use a baster to give them a squirt every few days.

Peppers might be slow at the start but you will be blown away by how many peppers you will get once they get established. You keep picking what is ready and the plants react to it by massively producing more peppers.
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Post  rowena___. on 5/16/2012, 11:30 am

@CharlesB wrote:Peppers might be slow at the start but you will be blown away by how many peppers you will get once they get established.

ditto, my peppers are always lagging behind everything else, until the weather is consistently in the 80's, and then BAM!--i'm filling up the dehydrator and freezer faster than i can harvest.
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Post  walshevak on 5/16/2012, 12:47 pm

My bells are starting to put on some growth and flowers, but the hot peppers are still staying small. Also the hot peppers took twice as long to germinate so I think they are just lazy. As long as they stay alive and healthy looking, I have hope.

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Post  cheyannarach on 5/16/2012, 1:02 pm

This gives me hope for my peppers although I did break down and by a few transplants for comparison... Very Happy
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Post  NJGardenMom on 5/16/2012, 1:26 pm

I started mine about the same time, I do have a true leaf here and there but just barely. Peppers and eggplants are TOUGH to grow from seed. Last year I gave up and bought a couple of transplants. This year I'm just keeping at it. I have mine in a greenhouse and they were on a warming mat for a while, but they are just tough little buggers.

I use the seaweed fertilizer too. Next year I think I will start them even earlier. Smile
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Post  mijejo on 5/16/2012, 1:52 pm

I subscribe to the theory that "green" peppers are not mature until they develop their final color - be it red, orange, purple, etc. If I do not pick the peppers while they are green, will it cause the pepper plant to stop, or slow down, the production of more peppers?
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Post  CharlesB on 5/16/2012, 3:32 pm

@mijejo wrote:I subscribe to the theory that "green" peppers are not mature until they develop their final color - be it red, orange, purple, etc. If I do not pick the peppers while they are green, will it cause the pepper plant to stop, or slow down, the production of more peppers?

In my experience it would depend on the variety. Jalapenos and Pepperocini's I pick green to get tons more. If I wait until they get red they look pretty bad and aren't tasty anymore. Kung Pao hybrids turn bright red on the plant and I pick away once red, yields ton's more. Same with Habanero's and Thai Chili's.

So you'll have to experiment. I don't grow bell peppers. I don't like them. But for cherry peppers, sweet and hot peppers if you are getting decent fruit after waiting until they fully mature on the plant go for it even if it yields a few less.
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Post  laufenberga on 5/16/2012, 5:12 pm

I have some pepper seedlings growing in my basement which is at about 60-64 F constantly. They are growing slow as well. I'm wondering if it would be ok to put them out in my greenhouse which isn't vented properly quite yet and gets up to around 120 and humid during the hottest parts of the day.
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Post  rowena___. on 5/16/2012, 6:32 pm

i wouldn't put any plants anywhere that gets up to 120º. Smile
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Post  camprn on 5/16/2012, 7:11 pm

@rowena___. wrote:
@CharlesB wrote:Peppers might be slow at the start but you will be blown away by how many peppers you will get once they get established.

ditto, my peppers are always lagging behind everything else, until the weather is consistently in the 80's, and then BAM!--i'm filling up the dehydrator and freezer faster than i can harvest.
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Post  GWN on 5/16/2012, 7:15 pm

mine look JUST like yours, and I planted mine in MM
As someone else here suggested I up potted mine a few days ago, and that made all the difference.
They were not root bound, they just wanted a bit more room
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Post  BackRiver_SFG on 5/17/2012, 6:01 am

I love this forum. cheers

All the advice and experience is appreciated. I will add some seaweed compost to the containers. Since adding HEAT, my peppers are looking better. They are still in my basement with automatic lighting. I added a clip-on shop light with an incandescent light bulb to add some warmth. They really seemed to respond well. They are still on the small side, but appear healthier and there are new leaves. I've been hardening them off some and just need the time to get them outside now.

Again, Thanks forum!
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Post  CapeCoddess on 8/7/2012, 11:03 am

Well, I just read this thread and maybe seaweed fertilizer will help these California Wonder bells stop dropping their fruits? And what's with those black spotted yellow leaves???


I have 3 in this pot of compost and 3 in the garden in MM. The compost plants are biggest but not all that big.

Also, should I have started a new thread or is it OK to latch onto an old one like this?

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Post  rowena___. on 8/7/2012, 11:14 am

if this were my plant, i'd mix a tablespoon of epsom salts in a gallon of water and spray it on the leaves, then water it well around the base.
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Post  cheyannarach on 8/7/2012, 12:12 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:Well, I just read this thread and maybe seaweed fertilizer will help these California Wonder bells stop dropping their fruits? And what's with those black spotted yellow leaves???


I have 3 in this pot of compost and 3 in the garden in MM. The compost plants are biggest but not all that big.

Also, should I have started a new thread or is it OK to latch onto an old one like this?

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Out of curiousity, do your peppers in the MM leaves look like that also. I don't have any peppers in buckets this year but I do have some tomatoes and gourds and my leaves look an aweful lot like that so I have been assuming for mine it's a watering issue because the containers need more frequent waterings. And yes it is just fine to latch on to an old thread, it helps keep more information together! Good luck with you peppers!
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Post  CapeCoddess on 8/7/2012, 12:25 pm

Thanks, Rowena. Epsom salts, eh? Hmm...I'm sure once I find it that THAT box will be covered in cobwebs. Laughing I'll try it.

cheyannarach, yes, the MM plants have yellow leaves. I'm picking them up from under the plant almost every morning. It's so hard to know if I'm underwatering or overwatering. We've had such a drought that I was watering every day. But then it rained once so I skipped that day.

I'm beginning to think that Earth boxes are the way to go with some of these fussier plants. I have 3 and they make life very simple, and each has two 1 ft squares. Someone on the forum makes their own self watering containers. Maybe I'll look that up again.

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Post  cheyannarach on 8/7/2012, 1:00 pm

Thanks for letting me know, I think I might have drainage issues with my buckets. Although the tomatoes are determinates so their gooses just might be cooked.
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