Square Foot Gardening Forum

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Anyone out there tried crosne tubers?
by GardenGal Today at 8:35 pm

» N&C Midwest: December 2016
by GardenGal Today at 7:45 pm

» New England, December 2016
by RJARPCGP Today at 7:23 pm

» Mid-South: December 2016
by yolos Today at 5:57 pm

» TrolleyDriver's Compost Thermometer
by trolleydriver Today at 5:21 pm

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing December 2016
by trolleydriver Today at 5:12 pm

» Tomato Tuesday 2016
by AtlantaMarie Today at 4:41 pm

» Happy Birthday!!
by PVPind Today at 12:13 pm

» Holy snow Batman!
by donnainzone5 Today at 12:13 pm

» Butterfly Junction
by countrynaturals Today at 11:44 am

» Garlic: Freeze, thaw, and heave
by camprn Today at 7:05 am

» Garbanzo (Chickpeas, Cicer arietinum) and Kidney Beans
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 11:28 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 10:43 pm

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 9:43 pm

» Second Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 9:41 pm

» CHALLENGE - Smallest possible footprint
by Kelejan Yesterday at 5:19 pm

» GF Collard Greens, Kale Recipes
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 12:49 pm

» 2016 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by sanderson Yesterday at 11:48 am

» Bon fires on the Levee
by Cajun Cappy 12/6/2016, 12:17 pm

» Mid-Atl - Dec 2016 - Seed Catalog ?
by Scorpio Rising 12/5/2016, 10:24 pm

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania
by Scorpio Rising 12/5/2016, 10:21 pm

» 1st Seed Catalog Arrived :)
by Scorpio Rising 12/5/2016, 10:15 pm

» Amaranth
by countrynaturals 12/5/2016, 12:06 pm

» Live and learn
by jimmy cee 12/5/2016, 9:08 am

» AtlantaMarie's Garden
by countrynaturals 12/4/2016, 2:04 pm

» Mychorrhizae Fungi
by audrey.jeanne.roberts 12/4/2016, 1:28 pm

» December 2016 Avatar: Show your Winter Season Colors!
by Scorpio Rising 12/3/2016, 11:17 pm

» SFG not giving the results I expected
by No_Such_Reality 12/3/2016, 7:21 pm

» New Member
by trolleydriver 12/3/2016, 4:14 pm

» First season SFG results / lessons learned
by countrynaturals 12/3/2016, 10:36 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on 5/3/2012, 12:43 am

Should I consider a row cover now or
later for protection against bugs? I'm going to plant one of my boxes
tomorrow and if necessary, I will make a row cover over the weekend.
Or
is a row cover only necessary when there is a problem with bugs? I read
about bugs that are particularly fond of cabbages, collard greens,
broccoli raab, etc.
Most of those types of plant are growing close
enough together that I can just put one row cover over the whole bunch
rather than a couple of row covers scattered about the box.

I'm so close to finally planting my boxes that I've planned months for....I just forgot about this row cover business. What a Face

Or should I look at something like neem oil or insecticidal soap instead of row covers?

Too Tall Tomatoes

Male Posts : 1069
Join date : 2011-10-24
Age : 46
Location : Pennsylvania, Zone 6A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  Turan on 5/3/2012, 12:46 am

Floating row covers do a fine job helping plants get a start. Often seed will sprout more quickly under them and transplants do better as well. They sort of protect from extremes. A thin sheet will do fine. QuiltBeas wire hangers to help the material float is nice but not crucial if they are thin enough.

Exiting times ahead! Are you planting hte tomatoes yet or is that the following week? Do you use things like wall o waters where you are?

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Belgrade, MT
Click for weather forecast

Turan

Female Posts : 1999
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on 5/3/2012, 1:00 am

@Turan wrote:Floating row covers do a fine job helping plants get a start. Often seed will sprout more quickly under them and transplants do better as well. They sort of protect from extremes. A thin sheet will do fine. QuiltBeas wire hangers to help the material float is nice but not crucial if they are thin enough.

Exiting times ahead! Are you planting hte tomatoes yet or is that the following week? Do you use things like wall o waters where you are?

I'm planting the tomatoes and peppers in about 2 weeks. It just depends on the weather. I thought about wall-o-waters but never gave them serious consideration.

I'm guessing that it's not absolutely critical to get floating row covers on the day I plant everything. I won't get around to shopping around for them until early next week.

And yes...exciting times are ahead! What a Face I had a blast yesterday buying my transplants.

Too Tall Tomatoes

Male Posts : 1069
Join date : 2011-10-24
Age : 46
Location : Pennsylvania, Zone 6A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  quiltbea on 5/3/2012, 8:54 am

I use floating row covers for two things; putting over newly-transplanted seedlings to protect from too much sunlight or wind when just transplanted, but only for a few days, and then a bit later when I think they need protection from insects. If the plant needs bees or insects for pollination, I remove the covers when blossoms appear so they can get pollinated.

Just remember when you put out your seedlings, protect against cutworms. They'll cut off your new plant at the base. I use 2 or 3 toothpicks, equally spaced around and right against the new planting, buried halfway into the soil. The cutworms can't curl around the plant with the toothpick in the way. Some put a newspaper 'collar' around the base of the plant.

quiltbea

Female Posts : 4613
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 74
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on 5/3/2012, 9:21 am

@quiltbea wrote:I use floating row covers for two things; putting over newly-transplanted seedlings to protect from too much sunlight or wind when just transplanted, but only for a few days, and then a bit later when I think they need protection from insects. If the plant needs bees or insects for pollination, I remove the covers when blossoms appear so they can get pollinated.

Just remember when you put out your seedlings, protect against cutworms. They'll cut off your new plant at the base. I use 2 or 3 toothpicks, equally spaced around and right against the new planting, buried halfway into the soil. The cutworms can't curl around the plant with the toothpick in the way. Some put a newspaper 'collar' around the base of the plant.

I've never had a problem with cutworms. Should I still do the toothpick thing?

Too Tall Tomatoes

Male Posts : 1069
Join date : 2011-10-24
Age : 46
Location : Pennsylvania, Zone 6A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  quiltbea on 5/3/2012, 11:37 am

@Too Tall.....I never had many cutworms in my home garden, but the occasional one has found a plant before and cut it off. Its always hard to see a plant lying on its side in the dirt. So now I feel preventative measures need apply. Like a good Girl Scout, I'm prepared.

If you don't mind possibly losing one or two that you've babied thru 6 to 8 long weeks of germination and lighting and baby talk (yes, I talk to my seedlings), that's up to you. I never take the chance any more.

quiltbea

Female Posts : 4613
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 74
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on 5/3/2012, 11:44 am

@quiltbea wrote:@Too Tall.....I never had many cutworms in my home garden, but the occasional one has found a plant before and cut it off. Its always hard to see a plant lying on its side in the dirt. So now I feel preventative measures need apply. Like a good Girl Scout, I'm prepared.

If you don't mind possibly losing one or two that you've babied thru 6 to 8 long weeks of germination and lighting and baby talk (yes, I talk to my seedlings), that's up to you. I never take the chance any more.

Just to be on the safe side, I will take precautions against cutworms. With everything else I have going on right now, I won't get to do that until Saturday or Sunday. I'll have to keep an eye on the garden till then. I just got done filling the beds. I want to take a bit of a break then I'll string up the grids, then seed and plant. What a Face

Too Tall Tomatoes

Male Posts : 1069
Join date : 2011-10-24
Age : 46
Location : Pennsylvania, Zone 6A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  1airdoc on 5/3/2012, 1:29 pm

This is my first year to use barriers (tulle), and I started using them early because I had some plants that overwintered. I have not put any barriers on my tomatoes, squash, zucchini, or sweet potatoes, however. If you are going to use them, I'd consider putting them up after the plants have a few true leaves on them.

1airdoc

Male Posts : 188
Join date : 2011-05-04
Location : 7a (Northern middle Tennessee)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  walshevak on 5/3/2012, 6:34 pm

I put my tulle up as soon as I took the plastic down from my hoops. Even before I planted in the new beds. Why? Because it keeps more than bugs out. It also keeps out birds pecking at emerging seedlings and most of the millions of seeds from my river birch tree. Shocked

Kay

____________________________

A WEED IS A FLOWER GROWING IN THE WRONG PLACE
Elizabeth City, NC
Find more about Weather in Elizabeth City, NC
Click for weather forecast

walshevak

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4310
Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 73
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  Too Tall Tomatoes on 5/3/2012, 8:13 pm

@walshevak wrote:I put my tulle up as soon as I took the plastic down from my hoops. Even before I planted in the new beds. Why? Because it keeps more than bugs out. It also keeps out birds pecking at emerging seedlings and most of the millions of seeds from my river birch tree. Shocked

Kay

You're telling me that you don't want to grow more birch trees??

Too Tall Tomatoes

Male Posts : 1069
Join date : 2011-10-24
Age : 46
Location : Pennsylvania, Zone 6A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  walshevak on 5/3/2012, 11:18 pm

They take too many squares. Razz

Kay

____________________________

A WEED IS A FLOWER GROWING IN THE WRONG PLACE
Elizabeth City, NC
Find more about Weather in Elizabeth City, NC
Click for weather forecast

walshevak

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4310
Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 73
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  1airdoc on 5/8/2012, 9:38 am

Had the same problem with maple "helicopter" seeds - they were particularly abundant this year. I was glad to have the tulle over at least one of my beds before they started to fall. I've been picking sprouts out of the other beds...

1airdoc

Male Posts : 188
Join date : 2011-05-04
Location : 7a (Northern middle Tennessee)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Floating Row Covers Now or Later?

Post  Sponsored content Today at 8:52 pm


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum