Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td][table style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"][tr][td align="left"][/td][td align="left" background="http://i32.servimg.com/u/f32/14/92/49/47/ndtzf410.gif" bgcolor="black"][/td][td align="left"][/td][/tr][tr][td align="left" bgcolor="#000000"][/td][td width="390" height= "" align="left" bgcolor="#000000"]
Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.

[/td][td align="left" bgcolor="#000000"][/td][/tr][tr][td align="left"][/td][td align="left" background="http://i32.servimg.com/u/f32/14/92/49/47/k39hxs10.gif" bgcolor="#000000"][/td][td align="left"][/td][/tr][/table]
[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Geezer's 17
by sanderson Today at 22:56

» garden ready need better weather
by sanderson Today at 22:26

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing in April 2017?
by Kelejan Today at 22:12

» California's Drought
by Kelejan Today at 21:56

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by yolos Today at 20:14

» Old roots
by Scorpio Rising Today at 18:10

» Amaranth
by Roseinarosecity Today at 18:09

» Sub Irrigation Planter
by CitizenKate Today at 17:24

» New England April 2017
by CAgirlinMA Today at 16:06

» Senseless Banter...
by bigdogrock Today at 15:53

» Hello from SE Michigan
by Cindy G Today at 15:17

» Volunteer Lettuce?
by donnainzone5 Today at 14:29

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by sanderson Today at 12:50

» Carrot Week 2017!
by newbeone Today at 12:34

» Worm Tube?
by sanderson Today at 12:32

» Jaffa's garden - year one
by RC3291 Today at 12:16

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Today at 5:54

» Ants.
by TNGeezer Today at 5:52

» to solarize, or not...I'm torn
by dstack Today at 3:01

» Pallet Wacking
by sanderson Today at 0:13

» EWWWWW.........bugs and stuff...good or not so good?
by sanderson Yesterday at 23:54

» April 2015: What to plant in No. California/Central Valley area
by audrey.jeanne.roberts Yesterday at 17:22

» N & C Midwest: April 2017!
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 14:58

» Mel's Mix shows it is worth its weight in gold
by sanderson Yesterday at 13:10

» An excellent read for those with Diabetes
by RoOsTeR Yesterday at 11:33

» Please comment on the plant layout for 2017
by TNGeezer Yesterday at 6:06

» 2017: First full year of SFGing in ND
by TNGeezer Yesterday at 5:57

» cucumber beetles
by BeetlesPerSqFt Sun 23 Apr 2017 - 16:48

» Bryan Greenbeard of Minnesota's 2017 Plans
by Greenbeard Sun 23 Apr 2017 - 14:09

» First of the Season
by newbeone Sun 23 Apr 2017 - 13:49

Google

Search SFG Forum

Incompatible Plants

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Incompatible Plants

Post  mrseltzer on Mon 28 May 2012 - 19:17

Hi-

I have been Sq. Ft. gardening for a couple of years now. I have a lot of root systems from previous plantings. My question is, are there plants that are incompatible; meaning that a second planting may keep the new plants from thriving?

Also, if the soil is dense with roots, will that keep new plants from being fruitful? Should I replace the soil?

Thanks for any information and opinions.

Mary
avatar
mrseltzer

Female Posts : 18
Join date : 2010-04-13
Age : 61
Location : Lake Forest, CA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  camprn on Mon 28 May 2012 - 19:22

I would get in there with a fork and stir it up, pull out heavy dead root systems and toss those in the compost pile. No need to replace your mix, just add a good deal of compost.

I try to move the variety of plants from year to year. So the same crop doesn't go in the same bed repeatedly. Some plants are more susceptible to carrying over disease from year to year, like tomatoes, cabbage family, etc...


Last edited by camprn on Tue 29 May 2012 - 3:42; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : spelling errors)

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14101
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  mrseltzer on Mon 28 May 2012 - 20:03

Thanks, CampRN.
avatar
mrseltzer

Female Posts : 18
Join date : 2010-04-13
Age : 61
Location : Lake Forest, CA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  Chopper on Tue 29 May 2012 - 23:15

I do not think your biggest problem is incompatible roots but like camprn said they do take up a lot of room that would best be replaced by compost. So, +1 Very Happy

Chopper

Female Posts : 2467
Join date : 2010-05-05
Age : 61
Location : Warner Springs, CA USDA Zone 8a, Sunset Zone 7 (I think)

View user profile http://thezimmermannfamilytoo.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  rowena___. on Wed 30 May 2012 - 7:24

the only roots i'd be concerned about are those from the sunflower family, as some types exude a toxin that tends to inhibit growth of other plants. this is a protective mechanism, it helps it claim more ground for support.
avatar
rowena___.

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 438
Join date : 2011-01-06
Location : nashville, TN

View user profile http://www.romesticity.com, www.rostitchery.com, www.the-ella-ec

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  quiltbea on Wed 30 May 2012 - 7:50

@rowema........I didn't know that, and yet my books tell me that sweet corn does better growing when there are sunflowers nearby so I planted a row near my corn beds.
avatar
quiltbea

Female Posts : 4629
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 75
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  rowena___. on Wed 30 May 2012 - 8:28

they are not incompatible with all plants, in fact it is said that cucumbers are sweeter if grown with sunflower. i know the hulls of the seeds can create a problem, so i try to harvest the flower heads before they drop seeds.
avatar
rowena___.

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 438
Join date : 2011-01-06
Location : nashville, TN

View user profile http://www.romesticity.com, www.rostitchery.com, www.the-ella-ec

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  quiltbea on Wed 30 May 2012 - 8:54

You're right about sunflower seeds making soil impossible to grow things. Saw it on a video. Barbara Damrosch, well known gardener and author, couldn't get anything to grow beneath her bird feeders where she fed sunflower seeds exclusively. I forget what they called the condition, but nothing much can exist where sunflower seeds drop. I forgot about that.
avatar
quiltbea

Female Posts : 4629
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 75
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  FamilyGardening on Wed 30 May 2012 - 13:18

we planted sunflowers last year and this year.....

last year we planted a couple large sunflowers in our son's self watering container that is filled with MM.....i remember that his carrots and cucumber didnt do that well.....his sugar snap peas did great.....

this year in his container he has sugar snap peas, carrots, green onions and a tomato.....so far everything is growing great!.....if i remember this thread towards the end of the summer i will try and keep ya updated to see how all of his plants turn out.....

so far his carrots have out done all of the other carrots we have planted this year.....but.....we have learned the hard way....just because they are lush and green doesnt mean any root is growing Razz

we also had sunflowers in one of our SFG beds last year and so far everything in that bed is growing fine....only the spinach and some of the lettuce has bolted because of the heat.......

we have sunflowers this year growing up with our berry patch, flower pots and in with a crookneck squash......we shall see......we love sunflowers.....and all the ones we are growing this year came from saved seeds from last year....so far 100% germ rate.....Very Happy

hugs

rose
avatar
FamilyGardening

Female Posts : 2424
Join date : 2011-05-09
Location : Western WA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  quiltbea on Wed 30 May 2012 - 14:34

I don't think its the sunflowers themselves, but the seeds that fall on the ground making it unsavory for other plants to grow.
avatar
quiltbea

Female Posts : 4629
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 75
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Incompatible Plants

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum