Square Foot Gardening Forum

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Garlic: Freeze, thaw, and heave
by jimmy cee Today at 10:29 pm

» Tomato Tuesday 2016
by AtlantaMarie Today at 8:51 pm

» AtlantaMarie's Garden
by AtlantaMarie Today at 8:46 pm

» Mychorrhizae Fungi
by sanderson Today at 8:30 pm

» SFG not giving the results I expected
by No_Such_Reality Today at 7:21 pm

» N&C Midwest: December 2016
by GardenGal Today at 6:38 pm

» New Member
by trolleydriver Today at 4:14 pm

» TrolleyDriver's Compost Thermometer
by trolleydriver Today at 1:32 pm

» New England, December 2016
by sanderson Today at 12:57 pm

» December 2016 Avatar: Show your Winter Season Colors!
by sanderson Today at 12:40 pm

» Mid-Atl - Dec 2016 - Seed Catalog ?
by CapeCoddess Today at 12:32 pm

» Live and learn
by jimmy cee Today at 10:56 am

» First season SFG results / lessons learned
by countrynaturals Today at 10:36 am

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing December 2016
by Kelejan Today at 9:46 am

» Mid-South: December 2016
by sanderson Today at 3:39 am

» 1st Seed Catalog Arrived :)
by sanderson Today at 3:30 am

» Eat Broccoli Leaves? Brussels Sprouts? Cauliflower?
by sanderson Today at 2:55 am

» Winter's Coming!
by sanderson Today at 2:53 am

» Dry versus fresh spices to infuse vinegar
by sanderson Today at 2:50 am

» 2016 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by sanderson Today at 1:28 am

» Holy snow Batman!
by sanderson Yesterday at 5:46 pm

» Senseless Banter...
by MrBooker Yesterday at 5:17 pm

» Blanching and Freezing Vegetables
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:59 pm

» Your Christmas wish list?
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:29 pm

» SFG Adventure of a first time gardener in ND
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:14 pm

» Second Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 2:59 pm

» Fusion Life Brands Power XL pressure cooker
by CapeCoddess Yesterday at 2:39 pm

» Asia Region -Showcase of Gardens - Show Us Yours
by sanderson Yesterday at 2:14 pm

» December: What to plant in Northern California and Central Valley areas
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 1:13 pm

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 12:52 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

Introduction and a question

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Introduction and a question

Post  imtethered on 6/2/2012, 6:44 pm

Hello all! I'm from the White Mountains of NH and this year is my first year of square foot gardening. I've just within the last few weeks started planting my 10 new beds with mixed results. I have been having trouble with the plants from seeds or maybe I should say the lack there of. I planted according to package directions and used the vermiculite in the seed holes but a lot of my seeds were either rotted or worse yet not there at all. Can carpenter ants eat or carry off my seed? Because we have had a problem with them in the garden this year. In years past I haven't had seed problems with direct seeding into hills so I'm baffled and sort of saddened that I have to replant all my seeds and at the growth time I've lost. Any ideas?

imtethered

Female Posts : 11
Join date : 2012-06-01
Age : 53
Location : Littleton NH in the White Mountains

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  rowena___. on 6/2/2012, 6:57 pm

welcome! 10 beds is a lot to start out with! i was not that brave, i started with two.

carpenter ants--oh lord--they have been eating our home from the inside out. this is a post i wrote almost exactly a year ago today:
http://www.romesticity.com/2011/07/june-busted-out-all-over.html

if they really are carpenter ants, get rid of them. do whatever it takes.

if they are just regular garden ants, sprinkle some cornmeal and sugar someplace where they can find it. they'll eat it but they can't digest it and it will kill them off.


rowena___.

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 438
Join date : 2011-01-06
Location : nashville, TN

View user profile http://www.romesticity.com, www.rostitchery.com, www.the-ella-ec

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  cheyannarach on 6/2/2012, 7:57 pm

Hi and welcome to the forum!! Hope you find a solution for the ants! Keep us posted.

Rowena, I read your link, that would be terrible!

cheyannarach

Female Posts : 2037
Join date : 2012-03-21
Location : Custer, SD

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  Goosegirl on 6/2/2012, 9:50 pm

flower flower

Welcome, and I hope you solve your ant problem! I, too, did not listen to Mel's advice and start small. I started with building 8 boxes and converting an existing bed. Added 2 more this year, but late so will be flowers only. Post pics when you can! I had one issue with seeds, one of my 3 kinds of squash did not sprout. I dug out the area I thought I planted them and found 2 of the 3 seeds. Moved them so they were not quite so deep and will give them another week. Otherwise, I will replant. Unfortunately, I do not know which kind of squash I planted there. May have to just make that square something else and live with only 2 kinds of summer squash. I always think I will remember what I plant where. Live and learn!

GG

____________________________

GG   geek 






COMPOSTING:  The only time 'Garbage In' does not equal 'Garbage Out'!

Goosegirl

Female Posts : 3402
Join date : 2011-02-16
Age : 51
Location : Zone 4A - NE SD

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Thank you for the welcome!

Post  imtethered on 6/8/2012, 4:48 pm

The article about the ants was awful! Thank goodness we have never had them in our house! The garden is a whole other thing.
I don't want to use chemicals to get rid of them if I don't have to. I've been using DE but lately it has rained every day so I think it hasn't been able to help. Does anyone know any organic way to get rid of them? they are now eating my root crops!!!! affraid Today I noticed the leaves on my radishes looked wilted so I pulled one and half of it was gone. pale I will replant for the 3rd time but not until the carpenter ants are gone.

imtethered

Female Posts : 11
Join date : 2012-06-01
Age : 53
Location : Littleton NH in the White Mountains

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  southern gardener on 6/8/2012, 5:00 pm

There is an ant product called Terro. It's supposed to be really good. you don't have to put it in with your plants. You put it around your garden/in your house and they take it back to the colony to eat/die. I also heard you can "make" it yourself, and I did, but it hasn't worked! I have more ants now than ever! I think it attracted every ant in the county! lol

southern gardener

Posts : 1887
Join date : 2011-06-21
Age : 36
Location : california, zone 10a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Sorry Rowena ...

Post  imtethered on 6/8/2012, 5:22 pm

Sorry I didn't see your reply about the sugar and cornmeal. I'm going to try it as soon as the rain stops. Thank you so much for the idea!

imtethered

Female Posts : 11
Join date : 2012-06-01
Age : 53
Location : Littleton NH in the White Mountains

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  CapeCoddess on 6/8/2012, 6:15 pm

I think Terro is only for those little black ants. Altho maybe they make a carpenter ant bait now, I don't know.

A long time ago I tried mixing cat food with DE and leaving it out for the carpenter ants. I also sprinkle DE around their area. Something worked coz I don't see as many any more.

Just be sure to rig the cat food mix so cats, dogs and whoever else wonders onto your property don't eat it.

For regular black ants I just lightly sprinkle corn meal (fine) around where they are.

CapeCoddess

Posts : 5366
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 60
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  Triciasgarden on 6/24/2012, 3:57 pm

Wow Rowena as if the flooding wasn't enough, then you had to do some heavy duty insecticide spray! That is totally traumatic because you are trying to be organic and keep your family and environment healthy! I don't like using insecticides either if at all possible.

I am going to try your cornmeal and sugar idea for my ants in my beds. Thank you for the idea!

Triciasgarden

Female Posts : 1628
Join date : 2010-06-04
Age : 61
Location : Northern Utah

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  imtethered on 6/24/2012, 8:17 pm

After all the hub bub of the ant situation I had a gardener friend of mine come over and tell me although I did have an ant problem it was the Earwigs that were killing my garden. So I'm still not sure which it was but I have treated with a Neem spray and after a week or so I put in a bunch of ladybugs (the Neem isn't supposed to hurt them but I waited anyway) and as soon as I have time I'm going to release some Beneficial Nematodes also. I'm also still using the DE. Thank goodness things have greatly improved! Very Happy
I've replanted everything and all is doing well except for the Kohlrabi, oh well.
Thank you all so much for the help, without it I might have given up. No

imtethered

Female Posts : 11
Join date : 2012-06-01
Age : 53
Location : Littleton NH in the White Mountains

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  rowena___. on 6/25/2012, 9:47 am

kohlrabi is a cool-weather plant. once the days get long and the heat rises, it's done.

rowena___.

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 438
Join date : 2011-01-06
Location : nashville, TN

View user profile http://www.romesticity.com, www.rostitchery.com, www.the-ella-ec

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  gregrenee88 on 6/25/2012, 11:59 am

@southern gardener wrote:There is an ant product called Terro. It's supposed to be really good. you don't have to put it in with your plants. You put it around your garden/in your house and they take it back to the colony to eat/die. I also heard you can "make" it yourself, and I did, but it hasn't worked! I have more ants now than ever! I think it attracted every ant in the county! lol

Yes! Terro is an excellent ant killer and we've been using it for years as needed.
Renee Cool

gregrenee88

Female Posts : 280
Join date : 2012-04-23
Age : 50
Location : Sharpsburg, Md. Zone 6B

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  Kelejan on 6/25/2012, 1:47 pm

@imtethered wrote:After all the hub bub of the ant situation I had a gardener friend of mine come over and tell me although I did have an ant problem it was the Earwigs that were killing my garden. So I'm still not sure which it was but I have treated with a Neem spray and after a week or so I put in a bunch of ladybugs (the Neem isn't supposed to hurt them but I waited anyway) and as soon as I have time I'm going to release some Beneficial Nematodes also. I'm also still using the DE. Thank goodness things have greatly improved! Very Happy
I've replanted everything and all is doing well except for the Kohlrabi, oh well.
Thank you all so much for the help, without it I might have given up. No

So glad you did not give up. We all here do our best to help newbies get over those first setbacks that can kill your urge to garden. It's our mission in life.Very Happy

Kelejan

Female Posts : 4488
Join date : 2011-04-24
Age : 81
Location : Castlegar, British Columbia

View user profile http://www.castlegarinkspot.ca

Back to top Go down

long overdue newbie garden update

Post  imtethered on 7/16/2012, 9:34 pm

Well the last 4 weeks or so have been an up and down ride. I'm still learning about different organic pest products because once I got the earwigs under control everything grew like wildfire. I continue the learning curve, I started with the earwigs and the next week it was aphids and just when I was feeling confidence again and aphids were gone the Japanese Beetles found my garden. Now I'm keeping the earwigs and Japanese beetles at bay and the cabbage worms decided to come in and join the party. I didn't want to give up on the garden more so I wanted to get the chemical pesticides out and nuke all the bugs! But good judgement prevailed.
Today I was thinking about how many obstacles I've overcome and the battles I'm still fighting and I looked at my garden. Despite everything my garden looks beautiful and is growing organically. So I guess with all my bumbling around the learning curve I still grew something not only beautiful but bountiful as well. I should be thankful.

imtethered

Female Posts : 11
Join date : 2012-06-01
Age : 53
Location : Littleton NH in the White Mountains

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  camprn on 7/16/2012, 9:52 pm

@imtethered wrote:Well the last 4 weeks or so have been an up and down ride. I'm still learning about different organic pest products because once I got the earwigs under control everything grew like wildfire. I continue the learning curve, I started with the earwigs and the next week it was aphids and just when I was feeling confidence again and aphids were gone the Japanese Beetles found my garden. Now I'm keeping the earwigs and Japanese beetles at bay and the cabbage worms decided to come in and join the party. I didn't want to give up on the garden more so I wanted to get the chemical pesticides out and nuke all the bugs! But good judgement prevailed.
Today I was thinking about how many obstacles I've overcome and the battles I'm still fighting and I looked at my garden. Despite everything my garden looks beautiful and is growing organically. So I guess with all my bumbling around the learning curve I still grew something not only beautiful but bountiful as well. I should be thankful.

LOL, you are not alone, I too feel that pain...'To everything there is a season..."

____________________________

40 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books

Outlander is outstanding!


camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 13983
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Introduction and a question

Post  Sponsored content Today at 10:53 pm


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum