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Am I paranoid?

Post  Boz on 6/18/2012, 11:39 pm

I am concerned about growing Tomatoes in buckets. My yard
gets high winds and I am concerned that buckets
planted with tomatoes will be unstable and the higher they grow the more unstable
they will become. Does anyone have experience growing Toms in buckets that they
can share?

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Post  CiderSapling on 6/18/2012, 11:44 pm

For several years, I grew in pots on my second story deck, open on all four sides to wind. The weather isn't consistently high winds here, but the exposure was pretty intense. I ended up putting the pots along the fence line, and using it as a trellis. My pots were deep, so I layered the bottom with gravel for extra weight. I also ended up using trimmed down plastic trellis as a windbreak - you could probably use a number of different thing, but this was something I was able to salvage from a neighbor's project. You might consider if it's possible to dig down into the ground to create a hole your bucket can fit into to help increase it's stability. ... just a few thing I did when I was container growing.

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Post  cheyannarach on 6/19/2012, 12:26 am

I grow all sorts of things in 5 gllon buckets! I fill the bottom 1/4 of the bucket with rocks and have never had a problem! Good luck, we get windstorms but not all the time but we do live on a hill where the wind hits us. I would also leave room for some mulch to help prevent drying out as quickly!

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Post  RoOsTeR on 7/3/2012, 11:11 pm

@Boz wrote:I am concerned about growing Tomatoes in buckets. My yard
gets high winds and I am concerned that buckets
planted with tomatoes will be unstable and the higher they grow the more unstable
they will become. Does anyone have experience growing Toms in buckets that they
can share?

Boz, I've got 4 indeterminate types in buckets tied off to a stake for now. So far so good. The winds have been bad though and I've lost a few things due to the wind, but the maters seem to be doing ok.

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Post  westx on 7/3/2012, 11:51 pm

You could put up a cattle panel to grow the tomatoes up by placing the buckets infront of it. You can even tie the bucket to the panel.

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Post  walshevak on 7/4/2012, 1:35 am

I have a cattle panel wedged between a tabletop on one side and 4 cinderblocks stacked 2 high on the other. Four buckets fit very nicely along the cinderblock side. We had wind sheers though here about 10 days ago that snapped a limb off one of my crape myrtle trees, but the buckets didn't move.

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Post  Triciasgarden on 7/4/2012, 12:40 pm

I think all these ideas give you a lot to choose from or bits from all. If you do not have something to anchor the buckets and trellis to I would be concerned about the whole thing tipping over. How about using buckets on both sides of a trellis/cattle panel and also going more wide than tall so the wind has less to grab hold of. Put extra weight in the bottom of the buckets and use rope of some sort to anchor the trellis/cattle panel to the buckets and some other anchor point(s).

Another idea is you could go out with a trellis at more of an angle, closer to horizontal, instead of straight up so the wind has less to grab on to. Then on the far end have it attached to another cattle panel that is verticle and braced somehow, against something maybe. My brain cells stopped working, can you tell?

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Post  Boz on 7/4/2012, 2:00 pm

For the last 25 years I have planted just three tomatoes in a 4X7 raised garden. I did not worry about crop rotation just stuck them in the ground and poured the water to them. Last year I did not get very many tomatoes and decided to add a 4X4 garden so I could rotate the tomatoes and grow other things.
When I put in the new box the ground sloped so I built the back of the box up so the box would be level, however the ground under the box still had a slope. This created a reservoir to collect any excess water. Then I planted my tomatoes in the reservoir. My lawn sprinkler system was also watering the area at 3AM.
I finally got all this figured out but my toms were really bad.

While I was trying to understand what was wrong I bought replacement Tomatoes and put them in buckets. I found "the Ultomato" cages and think they may be fine.
Meanwhile I had planted a squash on top of an enclosed finished compost pile, the wind blew and broke it in half. I replanted and a couple of days age the wind blew hard enough to partially pull it out of the ground. Its not dead yet but the funeral is scheduled for this week end.


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Post  CindiLou on 7/4/2012, 4:46 pm

@Boz wrote:This created a reservoir to collect any excess water.

Did you line your box with plastic or such? Otherwise it should drain. I don't understand how it created a reservoir.

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Post  Boz on 7/4/2012, 5:43 pm

CindyLou

The soil had not been worked in 25 years and is hard packed clay.

Calling it a reservoir is probably an exaggeration, however the plants in the front of the box were not getting enough water and the tomatoes were drowning. I pried the rear of the box up and put some small pieces of wood between the ground and the box and it is drying out. I also adjusted my sprinklers so they don't water that area.

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Post  CindiLou on 7/5/2012, 12:53 am

Yea unworked clay can be terrible. I hope you get it working! I love sfg and it is the best when it works lol..

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Post  Cincinnati on 7/5/2012, 2:18 am

@Boz wrote:...Does anyone have experience growing Toms in buckets that they
can share?

Buckets? ... No. But I grow tomatoes in Earthboxes. Last year I had several tip over in high winds. The Earthboxes had casters on them. Once the plants got to 4 or 5 feet tall, I had nothing but a sail on top of these Earthboxes. They were blown over in nearly every storm.

This year, I pulled off the casters. I also anchored the trellis into the ground. The old trellis was attached to each box.

We had several high wind storms. But not one of those boxes tipped over. And I didn't lose a single plant to wind.

SO, here's what I recommend: Drive a steak into the ground and tied the plant to the steak. Without it being able to blow around, the bucket cant blow over.

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Post  walshevak on 7/5/2012, 6:22 am

Here is an example of tomatos planted in buckets.

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t12790p30-planting-in-bucket

The best method so far is the string method. Nothing falls over. Clothesline running from top of EMT to the bucket handle.
But this particular set up is in a shadier spot than the pvc poles, so the pole tomatos are producing better right now. WE SHALL SEE THOUGH WHEN THE DOG DAYS OF SUMMER LOCK IN.
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Post  RoOsTeR on 7/5/2012, 10:36 am

@Boz wrote:For the last 25 years I have planted just three tomatoes in a 4X7 raised garden. I did not worry about crop rotation just stuck them in the ground and poured the water to them. Last year I did not get very many tomatoes and decided to add a 4X4 garden so I could rotate the tomatoes and grow other things.
When I put in the new box the ground sloped so I built the back of the box up so the box would be level, however the ground under the box still had a slope. This created a reservoir to collect any excess water. Then I planted my tomatoes in the reservoir. My lawn sprinkler system was also watering the area at 3AM.
I finally got all this figured out but my toms were really bad.

While I was trying to understand what was wrong I bought replacement Tomatoes and put them in buckets. I found "the Ultomato" cages and think they may be fine.
Meanwhile I had planted a squash on top of an enclosed finished compost pile, the wind blew and broke it in half. I replanted and a couple of days age the wind blew hard enough to partially pull it out of the ground. Its not dead yet but the funeral is scheduled for this week end.

I feel your pain on the wind! It's been relentless around here hasn't it? That and the heat. Sorry to hear about the squash plants. I've had a few things just totally destroyed by the winds.

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