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How many Oregon Sugar Pod plants in this pot?

Post  cpl100 on 8/20/2012, 6:44 pm

I was thinking four but I have never planted a snow pea (or any pea) so really haven't a clue. The SNSFG says 8 per square for peas. Nothing listed for snow peas. The thin rate listed on the package is 6 inches. Am planning to put a tomato cage in the pot and hope they climb it as it is my only choice. I got this pot at the market and it is used by them to hold 35 lbs. of frosting. It is about 12" across.

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Post  walshevak on 8/20/2012, 10:47 pm

It will work. Put the tomato cage in and plant at least 10-12 pea seeds around the edge of the pot. (some may not germinate) You may have to put some taller stakes in later, but the tomato cage offers good support.

Try to get more frosting buckets. Sugar snap peas are so good you will want to have at least 4 squares (buckets). This past spring I planted 4 squares at a time a month apart. And I ate them all myself, usually for breakfast right off the vine while working in the garden.

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Post  cpl100 on 8/21/2012, 10:21 am

What if they all germinate? How many should I thin to? I have no idea what a growing pea plant looks like!
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Post  gwennifer on 8/21/2012, 10:45 am

Hi cpl100,

So my first year growing peas I also did the Oregon Sugar Pods and was very happy with them. I grew them 4/square based on the 6" spacing it says on the package, just as you're seeing. Then later in the winter, flipping through the book, I noticed Mel's recommendation of 8/square for sugar snap peas. I thought like you, well, maybe snow peas grow differently. But the idea of being able to have twice as many per square was too wonderful, since I have a very small garden and trellis space is limited. So I posted a question about it and I found that not only did people plant them 8/sq, some others plant them 16/sq! I was blown away. I did find that other seed companies do say to thin to 2" on those, and I'm not sure why the difference. But long story short, I decided to go for it and planted mine 16/sq this spring. Low and behold, they all grew and produced wonderfully. I feel pretty confident that my yield was not reduced by the increased intensity of the spacing.

So I agree with walshevak. A tomato cage should be great for them to climb on - mine have always topped out at about 30". You'll enjoy watching them grow - they're one of my favorite things to see sprout because it's such a large sprout that comes out, no mistaking it for a weed like those tiny lettuce sprouts. And when those tendrils start coming out and twining on you'll be so proud. I say do the 10-12 per bucket like walshevak recommended and just don't sweat it if they don't all sprout, and don't thin if they all do. You'll end up with a big tangly mess of peas - they'll twine all over each other and the cage too. It'll be great. Go for it! I'll see if I can dig up some pics of mine.
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Post  Lavender Debs on 8/21/2012, 11:11 am

@walshevak wrote:It will work. Put the tomato cage in and plant at least 10-12 pea seeds around the edge of the pot. (some may not germinate) You may have to put some taller stakes in later, but the tomato cage offers good support.

Try to get more frosting buckets. Sugar snap peas are so good you will want to have at least 4 squares (buckets). This past spring I planted 4 squares at a time a month apart. And I ate them all myself, usually for breakfast right off the vine while working in the garden.

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I start my peas in soil cubes but that is a good number for that size bucket. Honestly I would put them in rows (three rows of 4) the same way I would in my SFG. This year I got terrific harvests from 3 to 4 seeds in 8 inch pots. I was able to set them where they could hang off of the deck.

I did two squares of Cascadia Snap peas and was overrun with peas even though me and the dogs as well as all three men in my house were snacking constantly.

NOTE on Snow-Chinese Peas: These come from aggressive vines that tend to get VERY tall and heavy. I would bet that three seeds in a tub (bucket) supported so that it does not fall over, will give you a fantastic yield.
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Post  cpl100 on 8/21/2012, 1:12 pm

Thanks for all that info. Do we soak sugar pod peas before planting to ease germination? The seed is quite big and hard.

I am planning to do two pots of these today, possibly three!
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Post  gwennifer on 8/21/2012, 2:51 pm

Well, nothing we say will replace personal experience. Hey, if you can do two or three buckets you've got the perfect way to experiment in just one season. Plant 4 in one bucket, 8 in the next and 12 in the third and see how they do! Those buckets are deeper than you need, so if you can I'd put a brick or two in the bottom of each one before filling to help weight them down.

I found some pics so you can see my Oregon Sugar Pods.

4 per square last fall (all six squares along the trellis):

16 per square this spring (only the two back squares):
I ended up tying some twine around those two squares at this point, to keep them within their bounds, but that was easy enough to do.

I've never pre-soaked.
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Re: How many Oregon Sugar Pod plants in this pot?

Post  walshevak on 8/21/2012, 8:35 pm

I agree. Some bricks, stones, or even sand will help stablize those pots and save precious MM. I put 8" of MM on top of bricks in the tomato bucket brigade. My thinking was since the roots can't sneak into a neighboring square for nutrition, I will give them a bit of extra depth.

I've never presoaked my peas, but I don't seem to preplan enough for that. I've also never done a fall planting where I know I have a frost deadline.

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