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Post  GWN on 8/25/2012, 12:09 pm

Nonni gave me some seeds this spring for 4 squashesI am not sure if some of them have been cross pollinated, perhaps I should have done it myself, this is a pottamarron as is the next picture.


This next one should be the Bumpkins I have forgotten o the french name, no warts as of yet.
Excuse the lousy picture but this one is supposed to b thelma saunders but I only got 2 pollinated so far.

Now this is the real question, this plant is HUGE and it is supposed to be Australian butter squash but the fruits are bright Orange, and so I am thinking the Australian butter squash did not make it home before the clock stuck 12 and TURNED INTO A PUMPKIN I really need to keep a closer eye on these guys..

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Post  Nonna.PapaVino on 8/25/2012, 12:27 pm

GWN, you are correct in the first two pictures, they are potimarrons (Kuris), but the second one is misshapen and has uncharacteristic greenish coloration. However, the Japanese have both red (dark, dark orange) kuris, and green kuris, so there may be a recessive gene at work. (Side bar: potimarrons and kuris are very closely related, or the same variety, depending on who you listen to.) The third picture is a Galeuse d'Eysines, or "bumpkin"--a young one. The fourth shows a very young Australian Butter--the squarish shoulder sillouette is a give-away. The last two squashes have me stumped. Did you grow pumpkins last year and could a seed have come from compost? Nonna

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Post  GWN on 8/25/2012, 12:47 pm

HMMM
The fourth one is supposed to be thelma saunders??
I Can start over again next year, turns out that they DO have seeds savers in Canada and so I can order from them.

I will keep posting the pics to maintain which seeds to save in the fall, I am looking very much forward to making that recipe you gave me with marmalade and potamarrons.....
I LOVE a challenge.

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Post  Pollinator on 8/25/2012, 1:02 pm

The bad thing about saving squash seed is that they cross so freely. The good thing (in my experience) is that the crosses taste good anyway!

Maybe in time, by selecting the best each year, one could develop a unique variety that is better suited to local conditions...

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Post  Nonna.PapaVino on 8/25/2012, 6:20 pm

Pollinator, I agree entirely about saving seed when one doesn't take steps to avoid cross-pollination. Having said that, this spring I carefully rescued tiny squash plants growing around the base of our compost bin and put them in the north garden alongside the corn PapaVino planted. Obviously from squashes harvested last year, but not protected from cross-pollination. Some did well, some died. Those that did well are putting out squash that look very like unto the Galeuse d'Eysines (or "Bumpkins" to the grandkids) that I grew last year. We'll see if they bred true and go on to develop the characteristic sugar warts all over their peach-colored skins. As a control, I do have some bumpkins planted way over in the south garden from a fresh (2012) Seed Savers Exchange pouch. Whatever we get, the grandkids have been promised bumpkins to carve for Halloween. Nonna

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Post  GWN on 8/25/2012, 6:23 pm

I think I have to create a squash bed far away from the others for next year, and try to help them more with Qtips.
I have read here that squash and cucumbers do not cross, but I have the yellowest pickling cucumbers that are right next to my yellow squash.
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Post  GWN on 8/25/2012, 8:04 pm

So I have a zucchini that is about 2.5 feet long and HUGE
It is beginning to turn a teensy bit orange as well.

How do you treat a zucchini that crossed with a pumpkin, like a summer squash or a winter squash.

I had lots of crosses last year that I never used because I could not figure out what to do with them.

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Post  camprn on 8/25/2012, 8:07 pm

I would slice it up and saute it, or roast or bake it. Very Happy

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Post  Pollinator on 8/25/2012, 8:30 pm

@GWN wrote:I think I have to create a squash bed far away from the others for next year, and try to help them more with Qtips.
I have read here that squash and cucumbers do not cross, but I have the yellowest pickling cucumbers that are right next to my yellow squash.
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No, squash and cukes are different species and cannot cross. Did you have any lemon cucumbers nearby last year (assuming these are from saved seeds)?

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Post  GWN on 8/25/2012, 8:35 pm

Thanks Camprn, I guess I just need to do that.
I have never been much of a winter squash eater and thought that this year I would start.

Nonni, I have gone back over and over the pictures of the squash and believe you are right, what happened to thelma sanders is beyond me.
THEY were the easiest ones to germinate, I germinated MANY of them :scratch:

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Post  Nonna.PapaVino on 8/25/2012, 9:27 pm

Any other fruits from other Thelma plants? Nonna

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Post  Lindacol on 5/28/2013, 3:40 pm

I need an ID on this squash. I only planted Delicata and I do have 3 vines of those growing very well. I did not plant any other squash and the only kinds I have ever grown are tromboncino, butternut, yellow straightneck(this came up from the butternut seed pack last year) and spaghetti squash.
I'm sure this seed came from one of the packs of delicata.
These are small (about 4" across). What are they and how do I tell when they are ripe? I had to add another trellis for this.

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Post  mschaef on 5/28/2013, 4:14 pm

Lindacol- These look like Jack be Little pumpkins to me. They are ripe when that turn all orange.

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Post  CapeCoddess on 5/28/2013, 4:45 pm

That happened to me last year - I planted watermelon and cantaloupe, didn't get either, but got little striped pumpkins.

I don't get it.
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Post  Pollinator on 5/28/2013, 9:49 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:That happened to me last year - I planted watermelon and cantaloupe, didn't get either, but got little striped pumpkins.

I don't get it.
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Had to be a seed mixup. No way they could cross and produce different species.

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Post  Goosegirl on 5/29/2013, 8:00 am

First year I bought pepper plants I had the same thing happen. Labeled 'Golden Bell', but got long skinny yellow Banana peppers. We liked them anyway, but when they first started fruiting it was a 'HUH?' moment!

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Post  GWN on 5/29/2013, 10:52 am

This year I am growing potamarrons, Turks turban, delicate, spaghetti, australian butter...... AND I AM trying very hard to keep them apart. The other thing I am doing this year is getting rid of ALL volunteer squash plants. I think it was the volunteers from the previous years that mixed everything up. In the end EVERYTHING in my garden became orange....Smile Naughty pumpkins.....

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