Search

Latest topics

» Tomato Tuesday 2016by countrynaturals Today at 12:12 pm

» Amaranth

by countrynaturals Today at 12:06 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?

by countrynaturals Today at 12:03 pm

» Garlic: Freeze, thaw, and heave

by

**donnainzone5**Today at 11:14 am

» Second Year SFG in Canada

by

**trolleydriver**Today at 9:52 am

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing December 2016

by

**trolleydriver**Today at 9:45 am

» Live and learn

by

**jimmy cee**Today at 9:08 am

» New England, December 2016

by

**sanderson**Today at 4:09 am

» 1st Seed Catalog Arrived :)

by

**Scorpio Rising**Yesterday at 10:42 pm

» TrolleyDriver's Compost Thermometer

by

**trolleydriver**Yesterday at 2:42 pm

» AtlantaMarie's Garden

by countrynaturals Yesterday at 2:04 pm

» N&C Midwest: December 2016

by

**sanderson**Yesterday at 1:44 pm

» Mychorrhizae Fungi

by audrey.jeanne.roberts Yesterday at 1:28 pm

» December 2016 Avatar: Show your Winter Season Colors!

by

**Scorpio Rising**12/3/2016, 11:17 pm

» SFG not giving the results I expected

by No_Such_Reality 12/3/2016, 7:21 pm

» New Member

by

**trolleydriver**12/3/2016, 4:14 pm

» Mid-Atl - Dec 2016 - Seed Catalog ?

by CapeCoddess 12/3/2016, 12:32 pm

» First season SFG results / lessons learned

by countrynaturals 12/3/2016, 10:36 am

» Mid-South: December 2016

by

**sanderson**12/3/2016, 3:39 am

» Eat Broccoli Leaves? Brussels Sprouts? Cauliflower?

by

**sanderson**12/3/2016, 2:55 am

» Winter's Coming!

by

**sanderson**12/3/2016, 2:53 am

» Dry versus fresh spices to infuse vinegar

by

**sanderson**12/3/2016, 2:50 am

» 2016 SFG in Brooks, Ga

by

**sanderson**12/3/2016, 1:28 am

» Holy snow Batman!

by

**sanderson**12/2/2016, 5:46 pm

» Senseless Banter...

by MrBooker 12/2/2016, 5:17 pm

» Blanching and Freezing Vegetables

by

**sanderson**12/2/2016, 4:59 pm

» Your Christmas wish list?

by

**sanderson**12/2/2016, 4:29 pm

» SFG Adventure of a first time gardener in ND

by

**sanderson**12/2/2016, 4:14 pm

» Fusion Life Brands Power XL pressure cooker

by CapeCoddess 12/2/2016, 2:39 pm

» Asia Region -Showcase of Gardens - Show Us Yours

by

**sanderson**12/2/2016, 2:14 pm

Google

# If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

## If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

I have purchased seeds to plant Tatsoi and Extra Dwarf Pak Choi. Neither of these are in the book, of course. So, do you experts somehow use the thin-to number (which in these two are 6-8" and 4" respectively)?

I was thinking the Tatsoi is most like lettuce which would be 4 to a square. The Pak Choi is so small (pick at 2" tall) and states to plant 1 - 2" apart and thin to 4". I was thinking that these do not need to be 4" apart. But what do I know my first year!

Exactly how do you figure it out?

Thanks!

I was thinking the Tatsoi is most like lettuce which would be 4 to a square. The Pak Choi is so small (pick at 2" tall) and states to plant 1 - 2" apart and thin to 4". I was thinking that these do not need to be 4" apart. But what do I know my first year!

Exactly how do you figure it out?

Thanks!

**cpl100**- Posts : 420

Join date : 2012-06-25

Location : MA Zone 6a

## Re: If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

Divide the 12" by the thin to number and square it. Plant the thin to number going both directions. 4" = 9 per square (thinned to 4 inches going across and then thinned to 4" inches going down.

You can use the thin to number as it needs a "square" of X*X (so 4" by 4" square and a 6-8" by 6-8" square.

the 6-8" would be 3-4. I'd probably try 4 and get slightly smaller.

Another way to do it is take half of the thin to number and start in a corner that far from each wall. Then the plant in both directions is the thin to number from the first.

You can use the thin to number as it needs a "square" of X*X (so 4" by 4" square and a 6-8" by 6-8" square.

the 6-8" would be 3-4. I'd probably try 4 and get slightly smaller.

Another way to do it is take half of the thin to number and start in a corner that far from each wall. Then the plant in both directions is the thin to number from the first.

**No_Such_Reality**- Posts : 423

Join date : 2011-04-22

Location : Orange County, CA aka Disneyland or Sunset zone 22

## Re: If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

@No_Such_Reality wrote:Divide the 12" by the thin to number and plant that level going both directions. 4" = 9 per square (thinned to 4 inches going across and then thinned to 4" inches going down.

You can use the thin to number as it needs a "square" of X*X (so 4" by 4" square and a 6-8" by 6-8" square.

the 6-8" would be 3-4. I'd probably try 4 and get slightly smaller.

I must be math challenged today because I cannot figure out your second paragraph at all! (I do understand the first directions, though!) Thank you for spelling out what I should do!

**cpl100**- Posts : 420

Join date : 2012-06-25

Location : MA Zone 6a

## Re: If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

LOL, I felt like I was writing clear as mud as I wrote it.

You can think of the thin to number as it needs a square the size of the thin to by the thin to. So if the thin to is "X" inches then the square it needs is X by X inches. So for a thin to 4 inch plant, it needs a 4"x4" square.

The other part I was trying to say was that each plant needs to be at least half of the thin to distance from each edge of the square. So you can start in one corner and place a plant and then go the thin to distance to the next plant (as long as that plant is still half the thin to distance from the edge).

That Pak Choi at thin to 6-8" could be anywhere from 2 to 4 per square. 2 per square would equate to a thin to of 8 inches. 4 per square is a 6 inch thin to distance.

You can think of the thin to number as it needs a square the size of the thin to by the thin to. So if the thin to is "X" inches then the square it needs is X by X inches. So for a thin to 4 inch plant, it needs a 4"x4" square.

The other part I was trying to say was that each plant needs to be at least half of the thin to distance from each edge of the square. So you can start in one corner and place a plant and then go the thin to distance to the next plant (as long as that plant is still half the thin to distance from the edge).

That Pak Choi at thin to 6-8" could be anywhere from 2 to 4 per square. 2 per square would equate to a thin to of 8 inches. 4 per square is a 6 inch thin to distance.

**No_Such_Reality**- Posts : 423

Join date : 2011-04-22

Location : Orange County, CA aka Disneyland or Sunset zone 22

## Re: If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

If it says thin to 4 inches here is the formula to use:

A- Always start with 12.

B- Then divide by the thin to number.

C- Now square the number and thats how many go in the square.

So it goes like this:

12 divided by 4 = 3.

Then 3 squared or 3x3 = 9. Cha-ching, 9 plants go in the square.

Try it again using 6 as the thin to number.

You should get 4 as your answer

A- Always start with 12.

B- Then divide by the thin to number.

C- Now square the number and thats how many go in the square.

So it goes like this:

12 divided by 4 = 3.

Then 3 squared or 3x3 = 9. Cha-ching, 9 plants go in the square.

Try it again using 6 as the thin to number.

You should get 4 as your answer

**llama momma***Certified SFG Instructor*- Posts : 4634

Join date : 2010-08-20

Age : 59

Location : Central Ohio zone 6a

## Re: If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

LOL, I was trying to 'square' the number (mathematically) i.e., the square of 4 is 16 and the square of 6 is 36, etc.

Nothing at all close to what you meant!

I like your first example the best! Well, except that for that dwarf baby bok choi that should be picked at 2" high seems like it should fit more than 9 per square (in my head, without doing the math, lol). I guess today I do not like math!

Thanks again for your assistance. I appreciate you explaining it.

Nothing at all close to what you meant!

I like your first example the best! Well, except that for that dwarf baby bok choi that should be picked at 2" high seems like it should fit more than 9 per square (in my head, without doing the math, lol). I guess today I do not like math!

Thanks again for your assistance. I appreciate you explaining it.

**cpl100**- Posts : 420

Join date : 2012-06-25

Location : MA Zone 6a

## Re: If it is not in the book, how to determine qty per square?

@llama momma wrote:If it says thin to 4 inches here is the formula to use:

A- Always start with 12.

B- Then divide by the thin to number.

C- Now square the number and thats how many go in the square.

So it goes like this:

12 divided by 4 = 3.

Then 3 squared or 3x3 = 9. Cha-ching, 9 plants go in the square.

Try it again using 6 as the thin to number.

You should get 4 as your answer

LMBO!!! I like your cheat sheet at the bottom! Thanks.

**cpl100**- Posts : 420

Join date : 2012-06-25

Location : MA Zone 6a

**llama momma***Certified SFG Instructor*- Posts : 4634

Join date : 2010-08-20

Age : 59

Location : Central Ohio zone 6a

Page

**1**of**1****Permissions in this forum:**

**cannot**reply to topics in this forum