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Post  NHGardener on 9/8/2012, 1:44 pm

I thought I planted a zucchini seed. Granted, it was a replant because most of my first group got munched off by slugs. The only seeds I ever had were yellow squash and zucchini. I also had some watermelon seeds, but I've been told this is not a watermelon vine.

It's weird. I don't know what to do with it.







It's kind of white and has faint stripes like a watermelon...

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Post  camprn on 9/8/2012, 2:20 pm

I think it may be a white pumpkin. I don't believe it is a melon, BUT, I could be wrong. Wink

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Post  lonewolfrissy on 9/8/2012, 2:34 pm

Those look like pumpkin vines to me. o.o

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Post  southern gardener on 9/8/2012, 2:48 pm

it might be a cross pollinated plant? Did you say you got the seeds from a plant you grew? We had some weird plants pop up a couple of years ago. they looked like zucchini/pumpkin cross. They were huge, and ended up turning orangish, but not quite a pumpkin. Keep us posted!

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Post  NHGardener on 9/8/2012, 3:03 pm

Someone mentioned to me that squash are very cross-pollinating. And yet, I don't think I had any pumpkin seeds anywhere. I'll have to check the fridge for my leftover seeds. Maybe in the fridge the seeds all had a party? It is dark in there when the door's closed... Very Happy

Wow. A pumpkin/something cross.

I'll keep this updated. When I cut it open, I'll take a picture and post it.

But first I think I'll let it sit and see if it turns at all orange.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I guess what might have happened is an insect (like one of my bees) cross-pollinated my zucchini (or maybe yellow squash) with a nearby pumpkin patch's pollen. Does that sound about right?

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Post  camprn on 9/8/2012, 3:35 pm

If you buy a seed from a supplier as a zuke and it grew a zuke bloom and pollen from another type of squash arrived via a pollinator you would still get a zuke. But if you took that next generation zuke seed and planted it, and it made fruit, that is when you would see the results of the cross pollination.
I think you got a seed that wasn't as advertised.

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Post  southern gardener on 9/8/2012, 4:05 pm

@NHGardener wrote:Someone mentioned to me that squash are very cross-pollinating. And yet, I don't think I had any pumpkin seeds anywhere. I'll have to check the fridge for my leftover seeds. Maybe in the fridge the seeds all had a party? It is dark in there when the door's closed... Very Happy

Wow. A pumpkin/something cross.

I'll keep this updated. When I cut it open, I'll take a picture and post it.

But first I think I'll let it sit and see if it turns at all orange.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I guess what might have happened is an insect (like one of my bees) cross-pollinated my zucchini (or maybe yellow squash) with a nearby pumpkin patch's pollen. Does that sound about right?

LOL!! was the seed from a packet, or from a plant you grew? The packets should be the correct variety, if it's from your own, who knows who partied with whom?? LOL We have two massive vines growing down by our pigs, and they are some crazy looking "vegetables". The leaves are about 2' across and the vines are about 20-30' long! wow!!

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Post  Turan on 9/8/2012, 4:29 pm

@NHGardener wrote:Someone mentioned to me that squash are very cross-pollinating. And yet, I don't think I had any pumpkin seeds anywhere. I'll have to check the fridge for my leftover seeds. Maybe in the fridge the seeds all had a party? It is dark in there when the door's closed... Very Happy

Wow. A pumpkin/something cross.

I'll keep this updated. When I cut it open, I'll take a picture and post it.

But first I think I'll let it sit and see if it turns at all orange.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I guess what might have happened is an insect (like one of my bees) cross-pollinated my zucchini (or maybe yellow squash) with a nearby pumpkin patch's pollen. Does that sound about right?

This seems a common confusion that comes up frequently. So I wonder if using a different example might illustrate clearer what is happening genetically.

If you breed your dog to its sibling that looks like itself the resulting puppies will look like your dog. It won't matter if you also have other breeds of dogs in contact with the puppies. If those first puppies breed with a different type of dog, the first puppies will continue to look like your dog no matter what they were bred with. The following generation of puppies will look different and will show a blending from both parents.

Same thing with plants only add the complication of self breeding, root divisions, cuttings and grafting etc. So a self breeding plant will have children that look like it. But if it is cross pollinating with something not like it, it itself will continue to look like itself but its children will not. Root divisions, cuttings and grafting are ways to propagate with out the possibility of changing the genetics.

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Post  NHGardener on 9/8/2012, 5:17 pm

Aha. I see. So I got a genetically-confused seed. Funny. No, I don't save my own seeds - yet. It was from a packet. The seeds were from a lesser known company. I think next year I'm just going Johnnys for everything.

They should rename it: the birds, the bees, and the squash vines...

I still don't know what this mutated vegetable is. Maybe I've created a spectacular new food. Maybe I will now get rich and afford a LOT of SFG boxes. Very Happy

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Post  camprn on 9/8/2012, 5:58 pm

If it's a pumpkin it would probably make great pie! hungry

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Post  NHGardener on 9/8/2012, 6:34 pm

It might actually be a winter melon. Hmm.

Ooh. Here comes the rain. Yay - another day I didn't have to water. Smile

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Post  Pollinator on 9/8/2012, 8:14 pm

@Turan wrote: But if it is cross pollinating with something not like it, it itself will continue to look like itself but its children will not.

To put it simply, the fruit flesh is entirely derived from the mother, so you normally will not see any difference in fruit in the same generation. But the seeds will have the combination of both parents, so you may notice that in the same generation, as with the sweet corn and popcorn I raised that shed pollen at the same time in the garden.

The only apparent exception I know (except that it really isn't an exception) is with the crossing of hot and sweet peppers. If you eat the seeds or the seed coating, you may find that bell peppers that got crossed with a hot variety may have some "heat" when you eat them - in the same generation.

Take consolation: with many plants, cross pollination can introduce a degradation - that's why it isn't very often an improvement when you raise an apple from a seed - but with the squashes/pumpkins, I've found that almost every cross I've ever had, has been delicious. That's why I usually let squash volunteers grow.

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