Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» What are you eating from your garden today?
by countrynaturals Today at 3:36 pm

» Tomato Tuesday 2018
by countrynaturals Today at 3:34 pm

» Fourth Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Today at 3:06 pm

» Drip system
by Al Gladding Today at 12:49 pm

» New England April 2018
by yolos Today at 11:32 am

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by Turan Today at 10:37 am

» N&C Midwest - April 2018–Snuck up on me!
by Goosegirl Today at 9:51 am

» Bird baths with solar powered pump
by BeetlesPerSqFt Today at 8:07 am

» Senseless Banter...
by sanderson Today at 3:28 am

» who has chickens
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 1:54 pm

» Chickens and Composting
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 1:44 pm

» Salvia
by Judy McConnell Yesterday at 8:55 am

» CANADIAN REGION:what are you doing in April 2018?
by Kelejan 4/22/2018, 10:50 pm

» Hi from Buffalo
by Nikko 4/22/2018, 4:24 pm

» Garlic Growing Lovers
by CapeCoddess 4/22/2018, 1:40 pm

» Turan in the Western Mountains
by sanderson 4/22/2018, 2:27 am

» Jimmys new SFG beds in development.
by jimmy cee 4/21/2018, 11:32 pm

» Adding Soil to Mel's Mix
by jimmy cee 4/21/2018, 11:24 pm

» Vermiculite on the out in Ontario?
by jimmy cee 4/21/2018, 11:12 pm

» I am still in Zone 5a
by RJARPCGP 4/21/2018, 7:30 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals 4/21/2018, 3:35 pm

» Happy Birthday!!
by sanderson 4/21/2018, 1:29 pm

» 2018 SFG in Brooks, GA
by sanderson 4/21/2018, 1:25 pm

» 6 or 12 inch box for growing cherry tomatoes?
by AtlantaMarie 4/21/2018, 11:39 am

» April Avatar: Spring is HERE!
by sanderson 4/20/2018, 4:18 pm

» Best drip system and timer?
by No_Such_Reality 4/20/2018, 12:59 pm

» Recommended store bought compost - Photos of composts
by jimmy cee 4/20/2018, 12:05 am

» Our Raised Garden Beds
by jimmy cee 4/19/2018, 11:53 pm

» anyone use fulvic acid before?
by sanderson 4/19/2018, 10:51 pm

» hantavirus
by RJARPCGP 4/19/2018, 7:42 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Go down

And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  mollyhespra on 9/25/2012, 11:07 pm

...how much wood ash is too much wood ash in the a) compost pile and b) as top dressing during the winter over MM?

During a "real" winter we can burn about 3-4 cords, so you can imagine that's a lot of wood ash. Additionally, when we have any chicken bones left over from our cooking we burn them in the woodstove, so I suppose you could say we have calcium-rich wood ash.

We usually just dump some ash in the compost pile, over the flower beds, on the grass, etc. and don't worry about it too much, but now that we've set up the SFG boxes in preparation for next Spring, we don't want to over-ash them, if you will. I thought I remember reading somewhere that there's no such thing as over-doing it with wood ash, but I'd feel better getting some feeback specifically.

So, is there such a thing as too much ash? thanks for the input!



Last edited by camprn on 9/27/2012, 4:52 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Expanded thread title.)
avatar
mollyhespra

Female Posts : 807
Join date : 2012-09-21
Age : 52
Location : Waaaay upstate, NH (zone 4)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  camprn on 9/26/2012, 7:03 am

Oh, there is defiantly a possibility of overdoing wood ash in the garden. It is quite quick to change pH, so my best advice is a little goes a long way and to be absolutely sure there is not a tremendous upset of the acid base balance, the soil/ growing medium should be tested before any application.That being said, I usually add about a soupcan of ashes to a 4x4 garden in the spring before I turn it over. If I start seeing symptoms of poor pH balance I will consider adding some during the growing season, but I always say a prayer when I do it.

My lilacs LOVE the wood ash.

Otherwise, the ash gets dumped in a pile out back.

____________________________

43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14167
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 55
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  mollyhespra on 9/26/2012, 11:55 am

So you only use a soupcan's worth per 4x4? Wow, I was thinking of dumping a whole ash bin or two into each 4x4--can you tell I'm from Florida originally--but in all seriousness, the wild blackberries on the side of the house seem to really like the wood ash, which is where most of it gets dumped by default being closest to the door closest to the woodstove. That being said, we have two HUGE pine trees back there & the soil is probably really acidic to start, so that would explain why the blackberries are diggin' the ash.

Silly me. dangit

I'm glad I asked the question. I guess the thing to do is make my MM and then test the pH and then decide to add or not add the ash. Thanks, CampRN! :tiphat:
avatar
mollyhespra

Female Posts : 807
Join date : 2012-09-21
Age : 52
Location : Waaaay upstate, NH (zone 4)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  No_Such_Reality on 9/27/2012, 2:46 pm

interesting, wood ash fertilizer is USA Process Patent #1.
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/wood-ash-can-be-useful-yard-if-used-caution

No_Such_Reality

Male Posts : 573
Join date : 2011-04-22
Location : Orange County, CA aka Disneyland or Sunset zone 22

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  camprn on 9/27/2012, 4:51 pm

Nice write up! Thanks for posting!!! cheers cheers

____________________________

43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14167
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 55
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  Pollinator on 9/27/2012, 5:42 pm

@mollyhespra wrote:

So, is there such a thing as too much ash?


There's only one way to tell - and that is to test for pH. In our southeastern acid soils, a Clemson agent told me that they only time they ever see alkaline soil is when someone uses too much wood ash.

Mel's mix would tend toward acid from the peat, but it might be pushed back toward neutral by some composts. It's hard to generalize - definitive answers can only be made with a pH test.

If your pH gets above 7, you are going to start having troubles growing many of the common veggies.

Wood ash does add mineral fertility, as well as neutralize acidity, so it's usually a good thing on acid soils. But be sure to steer clear of burning any wood that's been painted (lead contamination possible) and/or pressure treated.
avatar
Pollinator

Male Posts : 445
Join date : 2012-06-23
Location : Coastal SC

View user profile http://gardensouth.org

Back to top Go down

Re: And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  landarch on 9/28/2012, 12:30 am

I mix hardwood ash directly into squares to receive carrots and beets...not the entire SFG...maybe about 1/2 handful.
avatar
landarch

Posts : 1148
Join date : 2012-01-22
Location : kansas city

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: And speaking of woodstoves... wood ash in the garden

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum