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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  quiltbea on 10/10/2012, 2:14 pm

GWN.....I feel that garlic needs about 6" of space. They like a lot of nutrition to grow large. When crowded into 9 per sq, I find they don't get large enough for my liking.
I plant 4 per sq and sometimes stick a 5th in between if I have a few large cloves left over.

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Post  camprn on 10/10/2012, 6:20 pm

AWESOME! Margaret has taken the time to compile vegetable storage information AND is willing to share it with the rest of us!
http://awaytogarden.com/how-to-store-garden-vegetables-for-winter

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Post  camprn on 10/10/2012, 6:59 pm

@GWN wrote:QB I have this fear that I have planted my garlic too close. I looked it up on this chart I have for SFG, and they said 9 per square, now I am seeing
that perhaps that is too many??

What are your thoughts?
I have a friend who insists that garlic has to be planted on a full moon Smile
I planted mine roughly 9 per square and nearly everyone of them grew. 122 bulbs of garlic out of a 4x6. I am going to try to plant a bit farther apart this year to see if I can get some larger bulbs, but the white softneck does fine at 9 per sq. ft.






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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/11/2012, 3:40 pm

Oh wow, Camp! And look at the beautiful braid. cyclops

How long do they last on those braids? And when do you plant your garlic?

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Post  NHGardener on 10/11/2012, 4:32 pm

I'll say that braid looks beautiful! The garlic on the braid looks so much bigger than what you have laying in the garden, but it must just be perspective.

Okay, so Friday night they are now predicting 28. I think I'm just going to let my garden freeze - what about you all?

Today my surprise pumpkin vine and cucumber vine were all shriveled. I don't know if we might have gotten a light frost on my lot last night or what - we're in a gully here and prone to frosts I think. The tomatoes aren't turning in this chilly weather and instead are starting to rot on the vine. I guess I should pick them all, even the green ones - I hear if you wrap them in newspaper, they'll slowly ripen over the next couple months? I don't really want to wrap edibles in newspaper tho... Maybe I'll just throw them all in a paper bag and see what happens.

Other than that, I really don't have any storage items! I threw a bunch of tomatoes and green beans in the freezer, but everything else is just about gone, even the onions. We use a ton of onions and garlic, I should plant multiple beds of those... Probably will add beds every year at this rate...

But now I just want to close up shop and play with the soil to try to grow super veggies for next year.

Upward and onward. Very Happy

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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/11/2012, 4:39 pm

We picked what I think will be the 2nd to last batch of pole beans today, and there are only about 4 large tomatoes left to ripen as 1 or 2 a day are ripening and getting picked. Lots of cherries left tho. I may try the hang upside down in the basement thing with one of those babies.

I'm planning on trying to extend the growing season with my leafies. I eat so dadgum much salad and sauteed greens, that I've saved a bundle not having to buy any since last spring. I, too, will need more boxes to grow more of those for freezing.

Perfect fall day here today! sunny You, too?

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Post  NHGardener on 10/11/2012, 5:13 pm

What kind of greens do you saute, CC? I love sauteed veggies, usually in olive oil and garlic and onion. YUM. But I confess I don't know a whole lot about green leafies. I hear kale is super nutritious tho, I'd like to try that, wonder if that is saute-able.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/11/2012, 5:16 pm

I cut my sunflower head off too early! I thought I had read to cut the head off when the yellow petals dropped, but actually you're supposed to wait until the back of the head turns yellow to brown, and mine was still green. It's a huge sunflower and was hanging way low. So I lopped off 18" and it's hanging upside in my house, and I'm hoping maybe there's still a chance the seeds will ripen. That's another thing, you're supposed to wait till the seeds have black stripes. Mine were just barely turning striped. Darn.

Just an FYI for next year if anyone is planning on growing sunflowers.

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Post  camprn on 10/11/2012, 8:23 pm

Didn't have time to harvest anything this afternoon, threw covers over whats left...

NHG Sorry 'bout your sunflower seeds.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/12/2012, 11:44 am

And now for Monday, forecasted in the low 70s - ha. Almost tempting to throw a cover tonight.

What are you all deciding to do about tonight's frost?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  quiltbea on 10/12/2012, 11:54 am

I'll be bringing my herb pots inside for tonite's expected 28*F but the rest left in the garden are frost-tolerant; parsnips, carrots, and kale so I'm safe there.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  CapeCoddess on 10/12/2012, 11:55 am

I'm picking the rest of the large maters and tossing plastics over the rest. Supposed to be nice here afterward also.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  mollyhespra on 10/12/2012, 6:50 pm

It snowed up here in town today... lots o

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/12/2012, 7:07 pm

I spent about 2 hrs. in the garden today, picking green tomatoes. I got 5 half-filled paper shopping bags. There were also a couple hidden large cucumbers I'm excited about because I wanted a good seed cucumber. Some small peppers, 5 small eggplants, and a bunch of various shades of cherry tomatoes too.

So I folded over the tops of the paper bags and I'll see what happens.

I left a bunch of too-small or holey tomatoes out there, and felt bad for all of them, knowing they won't be alive tomorrow... Goodbye old friend, it was a good summer...

Gee, maybe I'm getting too attached to my vegetables...

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Post  camprn on 10/12/2012, 8:22 pm

Ugh, I had motor vehicle mayhem today and got home at twilight. Of course my head lamp is busted and no lights in the garden so I couldn't see to pick anything. I'm done with my summer veggies so I just cut the stalk at the base of 14 pepper plants and 9 cherry tomato plants and my one san marzano and hauled the whole garden into the house. Shocked I will harvest the veggies tomorrow. Very Happy photos to follow.

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Post  quiltbea on 10/12/2012, 8:45 pm

I went to the community garden today and picked the last of the tomatoes, 2 green and 4 or them with pink (3 were Gilberties, yay), 1 green pepper and the last 2 cucumbers off the vines. Pulled out the trellises and pulled tomato stakes and my compost bucket. My section of the garden is ready for the tractor to come and turn over the soil and add manure to settle over the winter. I won't have to go back again til next spring.
At home I brought in all the herb pots for the nite.

Here is thyme on the table, then curled parsley, rosemary, Mexican tarragon, chives, lemon balm, basil and Italian parsley. I'm sure many of them will live for quite a while into the early winter like last year.

This is my pot of Thom Thumb lettuce growing under the light with some red Romaine in the back of the pot. I'll eat these young and plant more thru the winter.
I'm getting all settled in for winter. No hoop houses this year but I hope to get into that next year to extend my fall season into early winter and also add an overwintering bed to get extra early crops the following year. Plans are in the making.
Hope those expecting frosts get their babies covered or inside for protection. Good luck everyone.


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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  camprn on 10/12/2012, 10:34 pm

QB do you use that sewing machine?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/12/2012, 10:35 pm

@camprn wrote:hauled the whole garden into the house.
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Now why didn't I think of that....

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Post  mollyhespra on 10/13/2012, 9:55 am

@camprn wrote:QB do you use that sewing machine?

Yea, I was wondering the same thing. Which model is inside, QB?

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Post  quiltbea on 10/13/2012, 11:27 am

Re my old Singer: I've forgotten the model and don't want to remove all the plants on top of it to open it. It serves a good place for my grow light system. I think the Singer is from 1917 or 18. I can't use it right now because it needs a new belt and I can't find any locally. With my computerized Husquvarna Viking Quilt Designer II (I'm a quiltmaker), I doubt it will be needed anytime soon. I also have a backup Brother for when the Viking goes in for cleanings.

Brrrr, it got cold last nite as expected, dropping to 30*F. I'd say my growing season is over. The herb pots did just fine inside.

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Post  camprn on 10/13/2012, 11:54 am

Thanks QB!

The temp dropped to 25 last night; My sun room this morning.


That's a yard stick on top of the pile of pepper and tomato plants. I have to say I'm pretty darn happy I got an extra 3 weeks frost free in the garden.

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Post  NHGardener on 10/13/2012, 12:32 pm

All things vine died in my garden last night, but the bassicas are still fine and the strawberries look fine.

Now. Do you all just mix the old plants right into the soil, or do you throw them in the compost pile first?

P.S. - I noticed QB's sewing machine right off too. Smile My mother has one not a lot newer than that one. Those old Singers were workhorses.

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Post  quiltbea on 10/13/2012, 12:59 pm

For fall I chop off the tops of the plants and toss them in the compost pile but leave the root system. Then I spread some compost over the tops of the beds, take my hand cultivator and spread the soil around a little and leave some brown leftovers and the root systems buried in the top few inches for nutrition next spring.

Except my brassicas. They can harbor clubroot so I cut off the plants to the ground adding the tops to the compost, then pull out the root system and toss them into the trash bag. I don't want clubroot in my compost. In the spring I always add a half handful of limestone to any hole where I'm planting a brassica to help repel and combat any clubroot in the new crop.

After the fall leaves are raked, I like to bury a few handsful of brown leaves in several squares in my beds. It keeps the garden worms happy thru the winter since they love to feed on brown leaves and their castings add to the soil's nutrition.

That's about it til next spring.

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Post  NHGardener on 10/13/2012, 1:33 pm

Thank you quiltbea! I never heard of clubroot, I'll have to look that up.

Also, last fall I strewed leaves on the tops of the beds and in the spring, they were still there, so I think you're right, burying them under is probably the best idea.

In fact, last fall I just left most of the plants, pulled up, in the beds, but things like the cornstalks, etc., did not deteriorate over winter like I thought they would, so that's why I'm thinking maybe throwing into the compost pile is best, and then in the spring add it back into the boxes, what has composted anyway.

Hadn't thought about leaving the root systems there...

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Post  camprn on 10/13/2012, 1:52 pm

The last of the summer harvest. This is what came out of that pile of feafiness.
3# semi ripe cherry type tomatoes
11.5# green cherry types tomatoes
2# sweet peppers
3.5# poblano peppers
3.75# san marzano green tomatoes



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