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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  camprn on 10/13/2012, 2:09 pm

@NHGardener wrote:All things vine died in my garden last night, but the bassicas are still fine and the strawberries look fine.

Now. Do you all just mix the old plants right into the soil, or do you throw them in the compost pile first?
I take everything out, chop it up either with pruners or the lawn mower and into the compost pile it goes. this way I have beds free and clear of more work later. The only thing that will need doing is adding compost in the spring and planting.
As to the worms, I let that action happen in the composting area. Once the frost permeates the ground, the worms burrow deeper into the earth for the duration of the winter.


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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  quiltbea on 10/13/2012, 2:10 pm

Wow, what a beautiful harvest. I'm lovin' it.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/13/2012, 3:09 pm

Here are my green tomatoes - I could cry. I have them in closed brown paper bags, hoping at least some will turn red.



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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  FamilyGardening on 10/13/2012, 4:12 pm

any tom's that have a slight color change should ripen Very Happy

congrats cheers on everyones end of the year harvest

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  CapeCoddess on 10/13/2012, 9:08 pm

Nice harvests, Ladies!!! Camp, sorry about your vehicle mishap. Hope all gets repaired soon and that you are OK.

Everything here made it thru last nites cold. I don't think we had a frost... it was 39 when I got up this morning.

I had no idea that we could leave parts of plants in the beds. There are tomato roots in there now but only because I don't want to disturb the carrots, jalapenos, scallions & garlic that are currently growing in that bed. I plan on taking them out afterward tho. And I didn't know about brassicas & clubroot either. Thanks for sharing your knowledge here!

Do you gals put your tomato plants in the compost pile?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/14/2012, 7:58 pm

So I'm going to be planting garlic soon, as many of us are.

But I was wondering - onions are pretty closely related to garlic, no? So are those plantable in the fall too?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  camprn on 10/14/2012, 8:11 pm

I don't plant my onions, red shallots and leeks until spring. However, gray shallots will be going in when the garlic does.

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Post  mollyhespra on 10/14/2012, 9:58 pm

@camprn wrote:I don't plant my onions, red shallots and leeks until spring. However, gray shallots will be going in when the garlic does.

Oh, I didn't know that. What's different about the gray ones that they get planted in the fall?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  camprn on 10/14/2012, 10:41 pm

@mollyhespra wrote:
@camprn wrote:I don't plant my onions, red shallots and leeks until spring. However, gray shallots will be going in when the garlic does.

Oh, I didn't know that. What's different about the gray ones that they get planted in the fall?
I am not entirely sure. maybe a longer growing season. The seed company said to plant these ones this fall. I have to look into it more. But the regular shallots I have don't really get that much of a head start and there are some failures (rot) during the winter so I just plant them early in the spring with my radishes.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  mollyhespra on 10/15/2012, 9:51 pm

That's interesting...I wonder...is there a taste difference between the two colors as far as you've noticed?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  camprn on 10/15/2012, 10:37 pm

The Grays are highly sought after by chefs and are thought to be of superior quality and flavor.
http://www.kitchengardenseeds.com/cgi-bin/catview.cgi?_fn=Product&_category=32

http://growingtaste.com/vegetables/shallot.shtml

I LOVE shallots because I bought them only once. All I have to do is plant them and they multiply. Very Happy

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  CindiLou on 10/16/2012, 2:19 am

@quiltbea wrote:For fall I chop off the tops of the plants and toss them in the compost pile but leave the root system. Then I spread some compost over the tops of the beds, take my hand cultivator and spread the soil around a little and leave some brown leftovers and the root systems buried in the top few inches for nutrition next spring.

Except my brassicas. They can harbor clubroot so I cut off the plants to the ground adding the tops to the compost, then pull out the root system and toss them into the trash bag. I don't want clubroot in my compost. In the spring I always add a half handful of limestone to any hole where I'm planting a brassica to help repel and combat any clubroot in the new crop.

After the fall leaves are raked, I like to bury a few handsful of brown leaves in several squares in my beds. It keeps the garden worms happy thru the winter since they love to feed on brown leaves and their castings add to the soil's nutrition.

That's about it til next spring.

I need to remember that about the brassicas! Forgot all about clubroot.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  CapeCoddess on 10/16/2012, 3:56 pm

@camprn wrote:
I LOVE shallots because I bought them only once. All I have to do is plant them and they multiply. Very Happy

I know nada about shallots except I love the flavor. I bought only one to plant from the grocery store. I don't want to open it until planting time. Are there numerous sections in that one shallot like a garlic? Can they be planted indoors in a pot?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/16/2012, 4:09 pm

So many veggies people grow that I've never even heard of.

Now I have to look up shallots.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  camprn on 10/16/2012, 8:21 pm

@NHGardener wrote:So many veggies people grow that I've never even heard of.

Now I have to look up shallots.
we can trade if you want.

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Post  camprn on 10/16/2012, 8:23 pm

Earthquake. Shocked 4.6 QB you Ok up there in Maine?

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  quiltbea on 10/16/2012, 8:49 pm

Yes, I'm fine here. We sure were surprised. I thought my grandson was skateboarding upstairs but couldn't figure out why the house was rumbling. I headed for the stairs to see what was happening just as my son started down my stairs to be sure the furnace hadn't blown up. Nothing outside fell over around our house that we could see in the dark.

Penny, my corgi, started barking a few minutes before the quake. I was in my kitchen doing dishes and thought someone had come downstairs and was at the door so I called out 'come in' but no one came in so I thought she may have heard my son coming home from work. She's very good at letting me know if anyone is around. I guess she was feeling it before we humans did.

We didn't know what happened. Nothing on TV so my son called a friend at the Portland Jetport and was told about the quake. They had a plane coming in for a landing at the time and thought the sound and rumbling was that it had crashed, but it landed safely, thank goodness.

A friend phoned my DDIL from Rhode Island at seven thirty saying they felt it there, too. So I guess it covered a big area.

I hope everyone came thru this ok without any problems.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  mollyhespra on 10/16/2012, 10:09 pm

We felt it up here in the White Mountains. It shook the building (town hall) I was in pretty strongly and for quite some time. The fire station is underneath the building and I thought the shaking had something to do with moving heavy machinery underneath us. I didn't realize it was an earthquake until I came home & DH told me what had happened. Imagine that. Glad to hear everyone's OK.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  CapeCoddess on 10/17/2012, 12:45 pm

I didn't notice this one, but my co-workers said her cookie pans started rattling and another had to re-straighten her wall hangings.
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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  quiltbea on 10/17/2012, 2:32 pm

I harvested all my carrots today plus I found 1 onion still in the bed.

These are Chantenays sown last March and Nantes sown last April.
The onion surprised me. I thought I'd picked them all earlier.
You know these will be in my Sunday dinner this week except some of the smaller ones will be my snacks later today. I'll bet they are better than store-bought.

I'm still waiting for a couple of freezing nites before I pick my parsnips and have that in another Sunday dinner.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/17/2012, 2:54 pm

Nice! I picked some carrots yesterday too.

How many carrots do you all plant? I don't know if I could ever plant enough carrots to keep us in carrots for long. I planted some in the plain earth, but that wasn't too satisfactory, I'd like to keep them in the beds next summer. Only if I had as much as I really wanted, I'd have to plant every bed with carrots... That would be a little difficult, because to have enough onions and garlic I also have to plant the entire garden with those...

I just need about 100 more raised beds and then I'll be happy.

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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/17/2012, 3:14 pm

@NHGardener wrote:I don't know if I could ever plant enough carrots to keep us in carrots for long. I planted some in the plain earth, but that wasn't too satisfactory, I'd like to keep them in the beds next summer. Only if I had as much as I really wanted, I'd have to plant every bed with carrots... That would be a little difficult, because to have enough onions and garlic I also have to plant the entire garden with those...

I just need about 100 more raised beds and then I'll be happy.

I hear ya, NHG! I didn't have enuff carrots either for my first time with SFG. I didn't realize how small they can be or how much longer than the pkg says they take to grow. I had to continue to buy them at the store all year. I use about 15 big ones /wk. Next year I'm going to plant about 30 every 2 wks if I can find the space. Besides planting them inside a bunch of squares, I plan on planting them as the grids in my boxes like I read that some do. Plus I need to find some bigger one's.

I haven't planted any onions & garlic yet so can't help there. Only chives and scallions, which did well but I definitely need more.

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Re: October 2012, New England

Post  NHGardener on 10/17/2012, 3:18 pm

Grids is a great idea. Except if they get overshadowed by the surrounding veggies. Is that a problem? Plus, they'd be invisible at first. You'd have to guess where your grids are.

But that might help.

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Post  quiltbea on 10/17/2012, 3:20 pm

Like you NHGardener, I would need a larger garden to plant all the carrots I'd like, and the parsnips.
I only planted 3 squares this year. One was in Juane Obtuse which is a white carrot I think or it could be yellow. I'm not sure because I only got 2 very itsy bitsy ones after all these months (planted last Apr).
So when I harvest, I enjoy them right away because I've been waiting so long for them. They are always so much tastier than the store-bought so I expect so will these.

Next year I'll plant more squares. I've rearranged my plantings. I'd like to make seed tapes next year for better placement. I'm not good at thinning. I tear out the one I want to keep as well as the one I'm thinning more times than I like. I'm also going to put them in my fall bed and my overwintering bed so I should enjoy more of them next year. Fingers crossed.

I just saw CC's post. I like that idea of putting them along the outside edges of the squares. I won't even need to keep strings marking the beds all year, just in the beginning.

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@quiltbea wrote:I'm not good at thinning. I tear out the one I want to keep as well as the one I'm thinning more times than I like.

My carrots were itsy bitsy too, QB. And they didn't taste very good. The organic ones from the store here are so sweet and huge. I want to grow some like that.

I find the suggestion to use little scissors to cut to the ground all but the remaining best seedling the best way for me to thin. With pulling, too much comes out and/or gets disturbed.

NHG, I think carrots can handle some shade. Can't remember. I'm more concerned that the tops, which in my garden gets so tall, will over shadow whatever is next to them. But with careful planning I hope to avoid that or put lettuce there.

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