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Post  JK on 1/29/2013, 10:23 am

I have been looking at different plants for permanent to semi-permanent plantings and I came across something called tree kale or tree collards. I was wondering if anyone has any personal experience with these plants?

Ive lost the specific video but the youtube channel growingyourgreens showed where the guy had some that were around 6 - 8ft tall and basically gave edible greens year round.

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Post  southern gardener on 1/29/2013, 11:59 am

My daughter has some, and they're probably about 5-6 feet tall, maybe taller? They do grow like a tree. Kale is really good for you too, so grow it if you can! good luck

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Post  CapeCoddess on 1/30/2013, 5:09 pm

I love this idea! Never heard of this plant though. Wonder if it would grow this far north. I'll be on the look out for it.

Thanks so much for the info!
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Post  plantoid on 1/30/2013, 5:26 pm

Piccy in this UK seed site .. it's called walking stick kale ....
It looks more like it should be called pitch fork shaft kale to me judging from the size of the child at the side on a staked up plant Laughing
www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk

item code 20666

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tree kale/collards

Post  has55 on 1/30/2013, 5:27 pm

john at growing your green.com on youtube has several video on this plant. I'll put a link down below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZucqWOKZ60E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYlYajIfvAk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR_ZEByuY2Q

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Post  JK on 1/31/2013, 9:02 am

Thanks plantoid, looking for walkin stick kale came back with alot more hits than tree kale.

Found another site offering the seeds : http://www.tmseeds.com/product/Kale-Walking-Stick/Kale_Seeds

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Post  pryz123 on 1/31/2013, 9:30 am

I think that they are two different varieties. Walking stick kale, and tree collards. I have watched John from growing your greens and he talks about both.

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Post  plantoid on 1/31/2013, 9:53 am

It's the same plant if the stated " Can grow up to 3.6 mtrs " ( 11 feet...ish ) is anything to go by , though having the Latin classification for both would prove it one way or another.

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Post  pryz123 on 1/31/2013, 12:42 pm

Did you watch the grow your green videos on you tube? He talks about and shows both. They look different. Walking stick kale is green with light ribs and the tree collards/kale has purple ribs. He talks about how different they taste too. - just sayin'. Smile

In his newer videos he talks about how the tree collards/kale never has gone to seed and its hard to find, and its propogated by cuttings. The walking stick will eventually go to seed, or at least he finds flowers on one in one of his videos.

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Post  CapeCoddess on 2/1/2013, 3:23 pm

awww...now I want both. Can't go wrong with kale and collards in one's diet!

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Post  Unmutual on 2/1/2013, 4:05 pm

Brassica oleracea ssp. acephala

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/sustainag/extn_pub/veggie%20pubs/Tree%20Kale,%20Perennial%20Kale.pdf

Tree collards and tree kale are the same plant. Walking stick kale doesn't seem to be the same plant since it can grow from seed(though the binomial name I found for walking stick kale is the same...but that just might be the normal internet misinformation).

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Post  plantoid on 2/1/2013, 6:37 pm

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Post  plantoid on 2/1/2013, 6:45 pm

@plantoid wrote:I had a look at the videos
Over this side of the pond the smaller stuff is usually cut or fenced in for winter cattle feed I doubt you could make a walking stick out of it .
To my mind a walking stick can be short at say three feet high up to a decent walking stick of 6 foot or more that you would use off road boulder hopping thrashing through close wood and wetland .
My walking stick also serves as a rifle rest, it has a bit of red deer horn set in he top to make a "Y" to rest the rifle in so I can take long distaant shots standing up . It is also used as a Thumbstick when out walking on grazed grass uplands etc.

In the D T Brown link I gave the tree kale is sold as 50 seeds for £1.19 p which puts it at odds with the blurb that says you can only tip propagate it.

Perhaps someone is hoping to only have clones to sell for more money rather than open or intentional propagated plants from seed or cheap seeds .

I think the best way to get it to grow and not flower is to cut the flowers off or put a hood of fleece on it to keep pollenator insects off .


Timing will also be critical , sow indoors in a commercial seed compost that is 50% diluted with some new peat to make it a bit weak so not to produce rocket like growth.
Sow one seed per 2 inch pot , re pot to a 4 inch then re pot to a 6 inch pot perhaps even re pot to a nine so you keep the root ball compact .

Grow it to 9 inches tall and harden off in time for last severe frost date so you can get as long a growing season as possible. I wonder if an MM + worm juices + seaweed regular liquid feeds would send things skywards

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