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Post  JMurphy97 on 2/8/2013, 3:37 pm

I always have my nose in my SFG but for some reason it does not list greens sucha kale, collard, and Asian. Burpee says to grow from spring to fall. Are these in the same type as chard? I was really trying to do all four of these this year in zone 5. I'm just a bit off as to how many and seasons.

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Post  camprn on 2/8/2013, 3:46 pm

I would grow all the leafy greens you listed from spring to autumn and I too am in zone 5a. They are not the same plant as chard, or did you mean something else when you said, '...same type as chard,'?
For more details about each plant you can go to http://myfolia.com/ and type in the plant you want information about.

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Post  plantoid on 2/8/2013, 4:23 pm

@JMurphy97 wrote:I always have my nose in my SFG but for some reason it does not list greens sucha kale, collard, and Asian. Burpee says to grow from spring to fall. Are these in the same type as chard? I was really trying to do all four of these this year in zone 5. I'm just a bit off as to how many and seasons.

Kale & collards are part of the plant species known as brassica's in Mels book ( details in my strap line ) they would usually be assumed to be a cabbage ( this is the main plant in the range ) . On page 261 to 263 there is planting /sowing info .

On page 260 there is seed germinating temps .

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Post  CapeCoddess on 2/8/2013, 4:46 pm

@plantoid wrote:Kale & collards are part of the plant species known as brassica's in Mels book ( details in my strap line ) they would usually be assumed to be a cabbage ( this is the main plant in the range ) . On page 261 to 263 there is planting /sowing info .

On page 260 there is seed germinating temps .

Thank you for this. I've made the notations in my book.

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Post  JMurphy97 on 2/8/2013, 4:50 pm

Same type as in spring to fall and four per square. Kale and collard appear to be huge so I'm thinking they would be one per square and should go as far north in the box. Next to the tomato plants that are on the vine. I'm not sure on the Asian greens though.

Would you put behind pepper or eggplant? I know these can get quite tall also.

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Post  plantoid on 2/8/2013, 4:54 pm

What do you mean by Asian greens .. pak choi , bok choi , chinese cabbage ???

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Post  JMurphy97 on 2/8/2013, 5:27 pm

From burpee .com it just says Asian greens - zen hybrid.

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Post  quiltbea on 2/8/2013, 7:36 pm

Asian greens can cover a lot of ground, among them; bok choi, pea shoots, tatsoie, mustard greens, mizuna, chinese cabbage, choy sum and others.
They grow best in early spring like most greens and many can bolt when it gets too hot. It safest to harvest them young before the heat arrives then sow more to grow in the cool of fall.

If you buy a package listed as just Asian greens on the package, I expect them to be like All Lettuce Mix which is a combination of many varieties that you would grow only til they were about 3-4" and then cut them to eat. You could grow about 9 to 12 per square.

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Post  camprn on 2/8/2013, 7:43 pm

The spacing description is right on the web page. It also says it is heat resistant... I am dubious. If it were me, I would sow indoors, transplant early spring. It may also do well as an autumn green and I would probably sow again the last week in August.
http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/asian-greens/oriental-greens-zen-hybrid-prod000888.html?catId=3018&trail=&_requestid=9777078

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