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Post  llama momma on 2/10/2013, 10:35 am

Hey everyone I thought this article was terrific addressing when you do everything right but the plant doesn't perform...did you know this information?? Cause I didn't.
http://awaytogarden.com/how-fresh-are-leftover-seeds-viability-and-vigor
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Post  quiltbea on 2/10/2013, 11:38 am

Good chart. I always mark right on my packages the last year of good viability.
The seeds' viability goes down a bit each year, but even beyond those dates they can still germinate, tho at lower rates. Just keep them fresh by storing in the crisper in your fridge in zip-lock bags to keep out moisture.
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Post  camprn on 2/10/2013, 11:41 am

Margaret Roach has one of the best garden blogs EVER!
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Post  llama momma on 2/10/2013, 11:47 am

Thanks. Between all those asparagus topics and Roach's article it's been an interesting morning. My head is tired...think I'll go relax and harvest worm castings Laughing
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Post  cheyannarach on 2/11/2013, 10:04 am

Thanks for posting llama mama and quiltbea what a good idea to write the date on the package!
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Post  GWN on 2/12/2013, 11:10 am

That was a great article I thought that as long as they sprouted they would be Just fine.
SOOO glad I cleared out my seed box last year. Not sure how it will turn out, but I put all the old seeds in a bowl and "sowed" them over a part of our yard that some digging had been done.
Sort of like cover crops, but not really. Very Happy
Thanks again LM....
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Post  quiltbea on 2/12/2013, 11:39 am

Even when the expiration date of viablility passes, some seeds will still germinate, but the percentage will be a lot lower. You don't have to toss out your old seeds. Just sow them more thickly.
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Post  llama momma on 2/12/2013, 2:32 pm

Appreciate the Nice comments everyone. When I can share something that helps others it feels great. After all the help I've received it's nice to give back.
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Post  JustMe on 2/18/2013, 11:26 pm

Thanks for the post. I used it as a guide to sort out my seeds this weekend as I started to plan this year's garden.

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Post  Kelejan on 2/19/2013, 12:40 am

@llama momma wrote:Thanks. Between all those asparagus topics and Roach's article it's been an interesting morning. My head is tired...think I'll go relax and harvest worm castings Laughing
Good results, LLM?
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Post  llama momma on 2/20/2013, 10:43 pm

@Kelejan wrote:
@llama momma wrote:Thanks. Between all those asparagus topics and Roach's article it's been an interesting morning. My head is tired...think I'll go relax and harvest worm castings Laughing
Good results, LLM?

Thanks for asking. Please refer to "1,000 worms on the way" thread. I want to keep my experience in one place.
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Post  Kelejan on 2/21/2013, 1:15 am

@llama momma wrote:
@Kelejan wrote:
@llama momma wrote:Thanks. Between all those asparagus topics and Roach's article it's been an interesting morning. My head is tired...think I'll go relax and harvest worm castings Laughing
Good results, LLM?

Thanks for asking. Please refer to "1,000 worms on the way" thread. I want to keep my experience in one place.

Yep, quite right, LLM. Just been there. Very Happy
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Post  Kelejan on 12/30/2014, 12:38 pm

Last year I bought some leek plants from the nursery and let them flower, with such beautiful purple balls of flowers. I let them go to seed and harvested the seeds. I got over 12 ounces of seeds. A few days ago i took thirty of them to do a viability test. Bumping this post reminds me that I have them on a dish and have forgotten all about them.

The dish is dry but there are some little white tails developing, so far about eight that I can see.  Have re-watered them to see if any more develop.  Perhaps I had better repeat the test and not forget to keep them moist?

I think I had better package some to give away. Would anyone in Canada like some for free? PM me your address.
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Post  Kelejan on 1/1/2015, 12:34 pm

After re-watering the first thirty seeds I have 25 sprouting and waiting on the last 5 that have swelled but not yet broken through the seed casing.

The second thirty 19 have sprouted tails and the rest look plump.

According to my figures that make about 73% viable so far.
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Post  quiltbea on 1/1/2015, 7:54 pm

Parsnips are a seed you need to buy new every year.  I tried sowing some from a prior year's package and none came up.
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Post  Kelejan on 1/1/2015, 8:05 pm

@quiltbea wrote:Parsnips are a seed you need to buy new every year.  I tried sowing some from a prior year's package and none came up.
Perhaps they were a hybrid and not a heritage type?
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Post  quiltbea on 1/1/2015, 11:11 pm

Kelejan......No, the package even stated for 2014 ONLY.  As does Hollow Crown and another variety I've purchased before.
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Post  Kelejan on 1/1/2015, 11:18 pm

So, how does one continue getting seeds from parsnips? Perhaps you have to plant the seed from the parsnips that you allow to flower?
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Post  quiltbea on 1/3/2015, 11:25 pm

I just got my Kitchen Garden Seeds catalog and they have listed several of the greens Average Seed Life statistics which aren't usually found in other catalogs.


GREENS:
Corn Salad/Mache/Lamb's Lettuce is only 1 year
Cress are 2 years
Orach is 5 years
Minutina/Buck's Horn Plantain is 2-3 years
Claytonia/Winter Purslane/Spanish Lettuce, Miner's Lettuce is 3 years
Arugula is 1 year
Sorrel is 1 year
Chicories are 2 years
Dandelion Greens is 2 years
Asian Greens including Tatsoi are 3 years
Southern Greens/Collards/Mustard Greens/Turnip Greens are 4 years
Okra is 2 years
Kale is 3 years
Mizuna is 3 years
Pak choi/Boc choy is 3 years
Chinese Broccoli/Chinese Kale/Gai Lan/Oriental Broccoli is 3 years
Daikon Radishes is 3 years
Shiso/Perilla/Ji Soo/Chinese Basil/Rattlesnake Weed is 1 year
Chinese Cabbage/Napa Cabbage/Pe Tsai is 3 years
Lettuces are 3 years
Salad Blends/Mesclun Mixes are 1-2 years
Spinach 2 years
Swiss Chard 2 years


HERBS:
Basil is 3 years
Mustard Seed is 4 years
Caribe Coriander/Cilantro is 1 year
Chives is 1 year
Dukat Dill is 2 years
Classic Garden Chervil is 1 year
Lovage is 1 year
Cutting Celery is 1 year
Fennel Mix is 1 year
Lemongrass is 1 year
Lemon Balm is 1 year
Lavender is 1 year
Greek Oregano is 1 year
Paprika Peppers is 2 years
Rat Tail Radishes is 3 years
Spearmint is 1 year

And yes, even they list Parsnip seed life of only 1 year

I hope this is helpful.
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Post  sanderson on 1/4/2015, 3:59 am

Thanks for posting this helpful guide.
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/4/2015, 7:06 am

Nice, Quiltbea!  Thank you!!
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Post  Kelejan on 1/4/2015, 10:16 am

So it looks to me that many seeds can only be carried on by using the previous year's seed yields. That is why seed packets state seeds viable for one year only.


I will bookmark this seed viabllity list.

Thank you, Quiltbea.
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Post  Kelejan on 1/4/2015, 10:21 am

@Kelejan wrote:After re-watering the first thirty seeds I have 25 sprouting and waiting on the last 5 that have swelled but not yet broken through the seed casing.

The second thirty 19 have sprouted tails and the rest look plump.

According to my figures that make about 73% viable so far.
To finish up my test, the first 30 seeds sprouted 29 and the second 30.They are now transplanted in to my sprouting tray to see how leek sprouts can combine with leafy sprouts for taste.

I am putting aside 60 leek seeds and intend to do the same test next year to see how many sprout. If I can find the seeds when required. Very Happy
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Post  quiltbea on 1/4/2015, 11:33 am

Kelejan, I hitlited this list, copied it by pressing Control C, opened a new email to myself, Hit Control V to paste it in my email, changed the list into alphabetical order and then sent that email to myself to PRINT.  I'll keep it in my Gardening 3-ring notebook for future reference.
I'm sorry I didn't put it in alpha order beforehand but I just took it from the catalog as listed.

An yes, we either have to save our own seed from an overgrown plant or buy new seed each year.
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