Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» TrolleyDriver's Compost Thermometer
by trolleydriver Today at 1:23 pm

» Lil' Goners
by Scorpio Rising Today at 1:13 pm

» N&C Midwest: May is here! 2017
by Scorpio Rising Today at 1:11 pm

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing in May 2017
by trolleydriver Today at 1:07 pm

» Texas Dream garden 2017
by trolleydriver Today at 12:56 pm

» Ground Cherries
by countrynaturals Today at 10:59 am

» Rolly Pollys
by countrynaturals Today at 10:58 am

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by trolleydriver Today at 8:48 am

» Saving cantaloupe from cucumber beetle?
by jimmy cee Today at 8:29 am

» New England May 2017
by bigdogrock Today at 8:02 am

» Excited to be a part of forum
by Kelejan Today at 12:37 am

» Hello from St Louis
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:52 pm

» Strawberry protection
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:49 pm

» Amaranth
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:26 pm

» Double summer squash flower
by sanderson Yesterday at 8:45 pm

» Bryan Greenbeard of Minnesota's 2017 Plans
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 8:33 pm

» New in NY...Hi all
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 7:44 pm

» Yard and garden Maintenance Gadgets
by sanderson Yesterday at 3:57 pm

» Natural Dying ~ The Thyme to Dye is Coming!
by sanderson Yesterday at 3:31 pm

» Turan in the Western Mountains
by Turan Yesterday at 3:19 pm

» New For 2017
by Turan Yesterday at 2:24 pm

» Planting tomatoes, cucumbers and squash back to back on wire mesh trellis.
by Veganist Yesterday at 2:17 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by Fiz Yesterday at 10:44 am

» Hello from TN
by AtlantaMarie Yesterday at 9:11 am

» Tips for compost tumbler
by jimmy cee Yesterday at 7:59 am

» 2017: First full year of SFGing in ND
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 7:36 am

» Using Eggshells for your garden
by yolos Yesterday at 1:00 am

» Lower South May 2017
by Scorpio Rising 5/25/2017, 10:44 pm

» Maritime SGFG 2017
by yolos 5/25/2017, 9:38 pm

» has55's R & D Journey
by has55 5/25/2017, 4:26 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

Economics?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Economics?

Post  edfhinton on 3/23/2013, 2:49 pm

So one topic that comes up at home occasionally in this, my first year at SFG, is economics. After all, this first year has a lot of one time costs thrown in - building boxes, trellis, the mix, grow stands I built for seed starting including lights, etc. Adds up to quite a bit (I am doing 64 sq ft of veggies plus another 18 sq ft of herbs. Maybe some pots of excess tomato plants, etc as well.) But I look at everything I plan to grow, and I think I will be net positive just on the veggies before the end of my second year (didn't know how to factor in the value of the herbs, so I didn't count the herbs in the break-even.) That's assuming I grow about $15/square foot of produce in my 64 square feet of veggies. If I hit around $22/square foot I break even year one, which I do not expect to accomplish.

I do plan to track my harvests to see how I did. I'm wondering if anyone else has tracked how they did in terms of cost versus harvests and perhaps I can use that as another metric. I'd actually be happy with a 3 year return on investment, but 2 years is easier to 'sell' at home.

Thanks,

-Ed

(Of course, that doesn't even count the enjoyment value and how much more heathy such fresh produce will be, or the health effects of the fresh air and exercise, but I did get told in a friendly manner that this garden better work, and I have been reassuring that it will be fine.)
avatar
edfhinton

Male Posts : 86
Join date : 2013-03-02
Age : 57
Location : Zone 5b, Exeter NH

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  Lindacol on 3/23/2013, 3:21 pm

Check out this article to see what is possible:

Grow $700 of Food in 100 Square Feet!

Read more: http://www.motherearthnews.com/Organic-Gardening/Square-Foot-Gardening-Food.aspx#ixzz2OONWgXN2

avatar
Lindacol

Posts : 777
Join date : 2011-01-23
Location : Bloomington, CA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  edfhinton on 3/23/2013, 3:55 pm

I saw the $700 in 100 sq ft article and for a variety of reasons I concluded it was not actually a 'Square Foot Garden'. Why? Here is what it say was grown:

"The first season (spring/summer 2008), I grew the following:
•Two tomato plants: ‘Better Boy’ and ‘Early Girl’
•Bell peppers, which are often luxuries at the market when fully colored: two ‘California Wonder,’ two ‘Golden Bell,’ one ‘Orange Bell,’ and one ‘Big Red Beauty’
•Four zucchinis: two green ‘Raven’ and two ‘Golden Dawn’
•Four basils (expensive in stores but essential in the kitchen)
•18 lettuces: six ‘Crisp Mint’ romaine, six ‘Winter Density’ romaine, and six ‘Sylvestra’ butterhead"

That wouldn't even fill my 64 square feet if using vining tomatoes on a trellis, as well as trellising the zucchini. It is a total of 34 plants, including the 18 lettuce which surely would not get one square each. Using trellising for tomatoes and zucchini and caging the peppers, and putting 4 lettuce per square, I count 21 squares worth of plants. Beng generous and spreading out the zucchini amd tomatoes a bit more despite the trellising, I'd call it no more than 30 sq ft of plants. At that rate it would mean she seems to have accomplished the equivalent of $23 per square foot if she had really used a Square Foot Garden. I'd still be intersted in hearing if any of the SFGers here have figured out their produce values, but this make trying to hit $12 to $15 per square foot to recoup up front costs in the first two years seem very doable.

-Ed


avatar
edfhinton

Male Posts : 86
Join date : 2013-03-02
Age : 57
Location : Zone 5b, Exeter NH

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  a savage gardener on 3/23/2013, 10:08 pm


You never know exactly how a growing season will turn out. One year you could get skunked and the next you will have more veggies than you can give away.

If you can at least make a dent in your grocery bill (and save money on gas), than I would call that a success.

a savage gardener


Last edited by RoOsTeR on 3/23/2013, 10:16 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Leave politics out of posts please.)
avatar
a savage gardener

Male Posts : 7
Join date : 2013-03-17
Location : New England Zone 5 ish

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  walshevak on 3/24/2013, 10:19 am

@a savage gardener wrote:
You never know exactly how a growing season will turn out. One year you could get skunked and the next you will have more veggies than you can give away.

If you can at least make a dent in your grocery bill (and save money on gas), than I would call that a success.

a savage gardener

+1

Kay

____________________________

A WEED IS A FLOWER GROWING IN THE WRONG PLACE
Elizabeth City, NC
Find more about Weather in Elizabeth City, NC
Click for weather forecast
avatar
walshevak

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4342
Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 74
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  camprn on 3/24/2013, 10:55 am

I found I could cut my first year outlay of cash by not buying everything at the box store. I found several sources of other compost that I used to make my first year mix for few or no dollars. Because cash was short I had to make due and my MM was a bit compost heavy.

I bought cheap pine 2x8's that have lasted four years and I may get another 2 years out of them.

After the first year I had enough free homemade compost to recharge all the beds.

Certainly the first year the garden did not pay for itself, but over the course of 3 years it has.
Last year I didn't have a super bountiful harvest, but I did put a lot of food up by preserving it through canning, dehydrating and freezing. I will have some canned goods left over probably at the end of this growing season.

In a garden less than 200 sq feet I took in at least 180 pounds of food. Not including honey. cheers

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14144
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  RoOsTeR on 3/24/2013, 10:59 am

Nice! There is another thread someplace around here with lists of savings folks have had on their harvests. I can't find it No

____________________________


I am my gardens worst enemy.
avatar
RoOsTeR

Forum Administrator

Male Posts : 4231
Join date : 2011-10-04
Location : Colorado Front Range

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  Lindacol on 3/24/2013, 1:27 pm

@RoOsTeR wrote:Nice! There is another thread someplace around here with lists of savings folks have had on their harvests. I can't find it No
Maybe one of these?

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t8944-roi-return-on-investment-for-plants

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t5949p45-how-much-money-did-you-spend-when-you-started
avatar
Lindacol

Posts : 777
Join date : 2011-01-23
Location : Bloomington, CA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Economics?

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum