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Post  Signey on 3/31/2013, 1:30 am

Ok here is my current problem. I have both broccoli and tomato plants that have sprouted. Sadly, two of the tomato plants and two of the brocs are growing right close to one another...Do I separate them now...or wait?
I am afraid that if I wait, I wont be able to separate them without damaging them. Your advice will be MOST appreciated!
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Post  camprn on 3/31/2013, 6:56 am

@Signey wrote:Ok here is my current problem. I have both broccoli and tomato plants that have sprouted. Sadly, two of the tomato plants and two of the brocs are growing right close to one another...Do I separate them now...or wait?
I am afraid that if I wait, I wont be able to separate them without damaging them. Your advice will be MOST appreciated!
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Once the seedlings get their first true leaves it will be safe to lift the rootball, separate the roots and transplant into their own growing cells.

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Post  Signey on 3/31/2013, 11:01 am

Ok camprn, what are the first real leaves? They are about 2 inches tall now...
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Post  camprn on 3/31/2013, 11:07 am

This is a small broccoli seedling starting to show it's first true leaves in the center of the stem.


This is a small tomato seedling starting to show it's first true leaves in the middle of the stem.



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Post  CapeCoddess on 3/31/2013, 11:43 am

Camp, what's that ball you have that tomato planted in? I've seen them elsewhere on the forum but forget to ask...

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Post  camprn on 3/31/2013, 11:48 am

@CapeCoddess wrote:Camp, what's that ball you have that tomato planted in? I've seen them elsewhere on the forum but forget to ask...

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That photo came from the web. The ball is one of those peat discs.


I wont use them again.

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Post  quiltbea on 3/31/2013, 12:35 pm

camprn....I got some of those grow cells for a Birthday gift last year and wanted to use them this year so started my sugar snap peas in them. They worked well for those. I think they are OK for something you will NOT transplant to a larger pot, like peas, corn, cucumbers or melons. If you are starting seeds indoors for only a couple of weeks time before going outside, they are useful. Otherwise, I wouldn't use them for other things.
I peeled off most of the 'skin' around the peas when I transplanted them into a large clay pot where they found a permanent home (I started some way too early this year and they couldn't go out in my garden).

Ten more snap peas under the lights to go outside soon, I hope.
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Post  Kelejan on 3/31/2013, 1:24 pm

camprn;
Lovely clear pictures showing what really are the first true leaves. Very Happy
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Post  CindiLou on 4/1/2013, 1:00 am

I never use those little jiffy things anymore. I found they do NOT degrade at all. So I got tired of tearing them off or finding them in my soil during clean up in the fall.
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Post  camprn on 4/1/2013, 6:36 am

Yes Cindi, I had similar trouble if I didn't remove the fabric.

If the peat discs are used, please remember to use a scissors to remove the fabric that is around the root ball before transplanting.

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Post  donnainzone5 on 4/1/2013, 10:41 am

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Post  ArkansasSFGardener on 5/1/2013, 5:13 pm

Great!! Now i have to go cut fabric off of EIGHT cucumber plants!!! lol thanks guys!!!
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Post  No_Such_Reality on 5/1/2013, 5:19 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:Camp, what's that ball you have that tomato planted in? I've seen them elsewhere on the forum but forget to ask...

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They're gardening evil incarnate.

They're only 2nd fiddle in evilness to the biodegradable nursery pots, both of which turn into strangling miserable plant death in arid areas.

The nurseries keep them wet enough that the plants grow into the pot, removing the pot will shock kill your plant, plant the pot and unless the whole pot is buried, the top acts as a wick to dry the pot into a prison and slowly kill the plant.

For the little disc they're not as bad, but like the pots, remove the netting before the roots grow into it or your risk ripping roots apart.

Not that I have a strong opinion on it. Shocked


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Post  jazzycat on 5/1/2013, 6:15 pm

I used some of the peat pellets and also some coconut coir pellets to grow my tomatoes from seed, and they did fine. Great, in fact. I did remember to tear off the fabric around the peat pellet before planting them. And the coconut coir ones didn't have a cover. They just expanded out into a plastic bin in a tray. I really liked using them, a lot. I also started some in some small 1 or 2" peat POTS, and those didn't do as well. I ended up having to transplant them into something larger. (I actually did that with all my plants.) I saved the pots and I was going to throw them into the composting bin (once I build it), but someone here said they won't degrade? Is that just in the garden, or at all?

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Post  camprn on 5/1/2013, 6:24 pm

Naw, those peat pots will disintegrate in the compost pile. Perfect place for them.

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