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Post  jimmy cee on 4/1/2013, 10:12 pm

Today I picked up 24--- 5 gal buckets of a compost from our small town recycle center.
The mgr told me it came from leaves and brush
A few people who were loading with me told me they used it before and it's great !!
I will need to screen it as there are still some remnants of brush, not much I just want a nice texture
I presently have enough completed horse manure, a couple of bags of sow compost, a bag of chicken doo doo.
If I can put some of this together to be certain it will work, I will use it, otherwise I will wait for my compost is ready however long that takes.
I have everything ready to mix if this can work for me, raised the beds, cold frame will be ready after plants are done...as I stated, if this isnt ok I'll wait for my compost.

Tomorrow I am picking up chicken manure, turkey manure, and cow manure, all fresh for my compost pile, presently I have two 4x4x4 ft pile's working, along with 1 tumbler.
It will be a while till this is done, unless I do the 18 day compost. I pulled everything out of one 3 days ago, then pitch forked it back in...In need of some greens, hoping the manure will do it.
Will be getting some waste from produce dept at local grocery store..

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Re: Do it now or wait compost....

Post  landarch on 4/1/2013, 10:41 pm

I would compost everything you have together right now...and continue to compost throughough the season as you can never have enough good stuff ready to use.

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/1/2013, 10:52 pm

I may not have explained myself correctly...I am intending to mix Mel's Mix with my material...
If I cannot I will wait..
My garden is going to be planted this season, with or without Mel's Mix.

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Post  landarch on 4/1/2013, 10:54 pm

I would have all your composts blended together and completely finished (does not rise to temp and individual ingredients are no longer visible) before adding to Mels Mix for gardening.

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/1/2013, 11:30 pm

Then what your suggesting is ?
Compost, horse manure, cow manure, mushroom manure, chicken doo doo , all of this that has completed the compost procedure..I should add this to my unfinished pile of compost and wait till it's done ?
I just want to get this straight.

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Post  Nicola on 4/2/2013, 12:33 am

@jimmy cee wrote:Today I picked up 24--- 5 gal buckets of a compost from our small town recycle center....from leaves and brush.
I presently have enough completed horse manure, a couple of bags of sow compost, a bag of chicken doo doo.
Tomorrow I am picking up chicken manure, turkey manure, and cow manure, all fresh for my compost pile, presently I have two 4x4x4 ft pile's working, along with 1 tumbler.
...In need of some greens, hoping the manure will do it.
Will be getting some waste from produce dept at local grocery store..
I am totally confused: I didn't see a question in your original post.

Compost is one-third of Mel's Mix. You wrote that you have 3 kinds finished, some working, and will add 3 more manures+waste produce soon.
Are you wondering if you have enough compost, or variety, or something else entirely?

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/2/2013, 7:57 am

Please accept my apologies, no question asked...yes...I have a tendency to do that, I know what I'm thinking so everyone else should also... Smile

My question should have been,
is there anyway I can use a combination of the finished compost ingredients listed above for the compost part of Mel's Mix ?
If I can do this I'll be able to proceed with my first SFG bed..

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Post  cheyannarach on 4/2/2013, 11:13 am

If I were you I would proceed! Have fun and happy planting!

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Post  landarch on 4/2/2013, 12:23 pm

Jimmy, no apologies needed. My point is that it will be easier to blend your Mels Mix if your composts are well blended themselves before adding to the peat and vermiculite.

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Re: Do it now or wait compost....

Post  bnoles on 4/2/2013, 12:31 pm

Hi Jimmy,

If I am reading your original post correctly, you are listing only 4 items and would really be better off with at least 5. Can you get your hands on some mushroom compost and worm castings. If you can add those along with what you already have, you should have a pretty good mix to get you started.

Good luck to you and I know you are as excited and anxious to get something in the ground as we all are.

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/2/2013, 1:27 pm

Yes bnoles
I omitted the mushroom manure from my types, it's left over from last year..

Landarch
Yep, will mix all types of compost together before adding to the compost segment of Mel's Mix

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Post  jazzycat on 4/2/2013, 8:15 pm

Would't all the manures count as one? Am I missing something? thinking

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Post  camprn on 4/2/2013, 8:18 pm

Mushrooms don't make manure and not all manure is created equal.

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Post  bnoles on 4/2/2013, 9:26 pm

@camprn wrote:Mushrooms don't make manure and not all manure is created equal.

rofl rofl rock on rock on lol! lol!

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/2/2013, 10:20 pm

Mushrooms here in PA are a brand that makes manure...

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Post  camprn on 4/3/2013, 6:41 am

darn funny
@jimmy cee wrote:Mushrooms here in PA are a brand that makes manure...

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Post  No_Such_Reality on 4/5/2013, 6:32 pm

My first step would be to contact the city producer of the compost and verify that they don't use any bio-solids. If the compost is green waste only from say the park department I'd use it. In California, we have green waste recycling but people through all sorts of stuff in it. Unfortunately, I trust the city produced stuff even less than the large commercial retailers.

I've gotten into the habit of picking up bags of steer manure compost, chicken poo, etc from the stores in bulk and then stacking them in a back corner with holes punched in the bag to air and age.

I know there are several discussions on the forum about the tendency for first year SFG gardeners to have a really bad production year. I've often wondered how much is just the new setup and how much is the mix and lack of 5 types, not fully composted, too woody etc.

That said, I tend to trust my nose with the compost. If it looks like rich dirt and smells like rich dirt, I add it in. If it smells like poo or rot, let it age.


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Post  TN_GARDENER on 4/5/2013, 7:03 pm

@No_Such_Reality wrote:
That said, I tend to trust my nose with the compost. If it looks like rich dirt and smells like rich dirt, I add it in. If it smells like poo or rot, let it age.


I like that advice because you can always add a little fertilizer to the garden mix if things arent quite where you'd like em.

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Post  plantoid on 4/6/2013, 5:36 pm

@No_Such_Reality wrote:My first step would be to contact the city producer of the compost and verify that they don't use any bio-solids. If the compost is green waste only from say the park department I'd use it. In California, we have green waste recycling but people through all sorts of stuff in it. Unfortunately, I trust the city produced stuff even less than the large commercial retailers.

I've gotten into the habit of picking up bags of steer manure compost, chicken poo, etc from the stores in bulk and then stacking them in a back corner with holes punched in the bag to air and age.

I know there are several discussions on the forum about the tendency for first year SFG gardeners to have a really bad production year. I've often wondered how much is just the new setup and how much is the mix and lack of 5 types, not fully composted, too woody etc.
That said, I tend to trust my nose with the compost. If it looks like rich dirt and smells like rich dirt, I add it in. If it smells like poo or rot, let it age.


I'd say 75 % and of the remaining problem gardens 24 % are watering probs , leaving just 1% for composts with weed killers in them .

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