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Post  jewlz2121 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:18 am

Getting ready to fill some beds up with MM and I'm starting to question the placement of the boxes in the yard. I have a 14' x 24' space to use running north to south the long way. The house is north of this space, the fence is east. Currently, I have three 4'x10' beds that I was going to put in that space, all of them running parallel to each other east to west. Can anyone offer an opinion on the placement? I can cut the beds down smaller if need be, no big deal. I'd just like to set them up right before I fill them up! I could use a little more space if needed, I'm just trying to leave some grass for the kids to play in.

I started doubting myself while mapping out my garden plan. I have a ton of tomatoes that I'm wanting to plant, which I know are supposed to go on the north end. I'm just not sure if I can plant them in the north end of each box or just the north end of the most northern box. We're also trying to figure out the best location for at least 1 cattle panel arch and 1/2 cattle panel walls.

Please help! Thanks.
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Post  H_TX_2 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:27 am

You want tomatoes on the North end so they don't shade out the other vegetables in the garden. Depending on your sun and how hot it gets you might be able to plant the tomatoes on the West side of your bed. Taller sun loving plants on the West side will provide late day shade for the rest of the garden and some plants will really benefit from that in the heat of the summer.
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Post  Weedless_ on Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:40 am

I agree with the above. Also, in terms of positioning the beds, it's best if they run N<-->S with their long side. Mine are actually running E<-->W, and I had no problems, but I don't grow a huge variety of plants, so I don't have any layering and tiering concerns, I just plant all the tall stuff on the North side, as was pointed out above, and be done.
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Post  jewlz2121 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:39 pm

Since I want to grow lots of tomatoes, wouldn't it be better if the long side was running east to west? That would give me a longer wall on the north side, right?
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Post  H_TX_2 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:52 pm

Usually the North side is ideal but if that isn't possible I would put the trellis on the West side.
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Post  Turan on Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:55 pm

In my garden the shadows run west to east as the sun goes over head. Summer sun is directly over head in the summer. There is almost no shade on the north side of a row of tomatoes. If I want shade for lettuce I plant on the east side of something tall. The hard hot sun is in the afternoon.

I have beds both running E-W and N-S. I do not notice a difference between them, not if I planted tall stuff on the south or north edge or west or east edges.

So I say orient your beds however works best for you and put your plants where it works out.

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Post  quiltbea on Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:02 pm

I use the northside for most tall crops, but have also used the west side with good results. With tall tomatoes on the west side, you can have cooler spots of crops on the east side of them. The sun is warmer for longer hours on the west side than the east.
I wouldn't worry about it too much especially since you live in the south.
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Post  No_Such_Reality on Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:48 pm

I'd make smaller beds and rotate them the other way. The way you're describing you'll have a wall of tomatoes in the nearest bed basically going edge to edge (or at least walkspace edge to walkspace edge) and blocking the view of everything behind it. In all beds, the tallest plants will typically end up in the side towards the house blocking your view of the bed until you're standing on it.

Possibly even gowith a geometric pattern of 3'x3' or 4'x4' beds. Also consider using the outside edge of the planting space for a 2'xhowever long. Maybe making a big U shape of planters that leaves you use-able space in the middle and long thin beds on the outside and more square beds. But that's me, and I plan for space that allow me to be "in" the garden yet see the yard and interact with my toddler and provide space for him to run and play and still be seen.

What's to the west and south of the space? North is house, east is fence, I envision a long narrow planter long the fence. It'll provide support for climbing plants and increase privacy of the fence.



You can kind of see the geometric pattern of beds here and visualize the space between still being useable for play by children.

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