Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Today's Harvest
by countrynaturals Today at 11:58 am

» Biochar?
by countrynaturals Today at 11:54 am

» Any Strange and Wonderful Visitors? Photos please!
by countrynaturals Today at 11:34 am

» Butterfly Junction
by countrynaturals Today at 11:31 am

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by countrynaturals Today at 11:27 am

» My Compost Bin
by SQWIB Today at 7:36 am

» Newbie from Ayrshire, West Coast of Scotland
by robert1938 Today at 7:28 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by sanderson Today at 3:38 am

» A great offer for a local SFG,er
by sanderson Today at 3:07 am

» Hello from Gilbert, AZ
by LizDTM Today at 12:21 am

» N & C Midwest: October 2017!
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 11:42 pm

» How to Grow Better Tomatoes
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 7:59 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 7:54 pm

» Helpful Beetles
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 7:45 pm

» Does MM improve with age?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 7:41 pm

» to mulch or not to mulch
by sanderson Yesterday at 7:36 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by sanderson Yesterday at 7:29 pm

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania, 3rd year SFG
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 7:19 pm

» Garlic Growing Lovers
by SQWIB Yesterday at 5:31 pm

» Gardening & Homesteading Skills Summit REGISTER NOW!
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:23 am

» How much room for Tromboncino zucchini?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:08 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 10:20 am

» Thumbs Up????
by sanderson Yesterday at 10:03 am

» More Bad News for Bugs
by SQWIB Yesterday at 9:57 am

» What weed? is this? (with pic)
by sanderson Yesterday at 2:57 am

» Senseless Banter...
by Scorpio Rising 10/18/2017, 8:26 pm

» Lower south Oct 2017
by brianj555 10/17/2017, 5:02 pm

» Sowing Experiment! Anyone Tried This?
by brianj555 10/17/2017, 4:50 pm

» BOOK GIVEAWAY - ENDS 10/20/17
by CapeCoddess 10/17/2017, 3:48 pm

» Turan in the Western Mountains
by countrynaturals 10/17/2017, 3:37 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

Post  Windmere on 4/8/2013, 8:44 pm

Today I made the discovery that dozens of teeny tiny "gauzy white" flies were on my seedlings and lots more on the soil. I have never heard of any beneficial insect fitting this description, so I broke out my neem oil/peppermint soap mixture.

First, does anyone know of a pest that fits my description? Second, I have some neem oil mixture left and I wanted to know what sort of longevity it has. I put the left over amount in the refrigerator.

I had to make two cups of the mixture (mainly because I could not figure out how to make less... my math skills were not advanced enough to figure out the 1/16 of an ounce and 1/16 of a teaspoon necessary for just one cup).

I have to confess, I am terrified that the neem oil mixture I've sprayed will some how hurt my seedlings. I've babied them for so long! I did follow the directions exactly, I'm just paranoid.

Thanks for reading this all.
avatar
Windmere

Male Posts : 1425
Join date : 2013-02-26
Age : 48
Location : Fayetteville, GA - Zone 7B - 8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

Post  yolos on 4/8/2013, 9:06 pm

I am not sure, but I think they are called white flies. I had them last year and an old gardener told me to use yellow sticky traps. Some kind of yellow sheet material coated with a sticky substance. Apparently they are attracted to the color yellow. I did not use this method to get rid of them, but I can't remember what I used. Probably a soap spray. Sorry my brain cells no longer retain much.
avatar
yolos

Female Posts : 3266
Join date : 2011-11-20
Age : 67
Location : Brooks, Ga Zone 7B/8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Lots of yellow to be attracted to - Abundance of pine pollen

Post  Windmere on 4/8/2013, 9:19 pm

Yolos, I got a chuckle when you said that these white flies are attracted to yellow. In light of the fact that all my seedlings are heavily dusted by yellow pine pollen, there's lots of yellow for these blasted flies to be attracted to. I'm joking of course, but seeing as how your just around the corner from me, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about with this awful pollen.
avatar
Windmere

Male Posts : 1425
Join date : 2013-02-26
Age : 48
Location : Fayetteville, GA - Zone 7B - 8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

Post  camprn on 4/8/2013, 9:56 pm

If the infestation is gauzy, it's probably mealy bugs, easily controlled with neem, per the label directions.

http://msgreenthumbwateringpot.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/house-plant-pests/

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14165
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 55
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

Post  Coelli on 4/9/2013, 12:21 am

I have some organic neem I got from eBay a while back, and the directions say to use it within 4 hours after mixing.

In a fit of laziness I also bought some pre-made neem spray, used it once, and hated the smell so much I will never use it again even if it doesn't require mixing first. Not worth it. Razz I'll stick with Dr. Bronner's and the other neem!
avatar
Coelli

Female Posts : 300
Join date : 2012-04-30
Location : Los Angeles foothills

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Very helpful information... Thanks!!

Post  Windmere on 4/9/2013, 11:45 am

camprn wrote:If the infestation is gauzy, it's probably mealy bugs, easily controlled with neem, per the label directions.

http://msgreenthumbwateringpot.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/house-plant-pests/

Thanks so much for your effort in helping me figure out what kind of pest I have on my plants. After looking at the diagram, I think I have "white flies." I guess I misspoke when I wrote that my flies were "gauzy." I just meant that their wings seemed gauzy.... very delicate. Your help was perfect!
avatar
Windmere

Male Posts : 1425
Join date : 2013-02-26
Age : 48
Location : Fayetteville, GA - Zone 7B - 8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Longevity of Neem Oil - Mixture measumements - Very Effective!!

Post  Windmere on 4/9/2013, 12:01 pm

Coelli wrote:I have some organic neem I got from eBay a while back, and the directions say to use it within 4 hours after mixing.

In a fit of laziness I also bought some pre-made neem spray, used it once, and hated the smell so much I will never use it again even if it doesn't require mixing first. Not worth it. Razz I'll stick with Dr. Bronner's and the other neem!

NEEM OIL LONGEVITY OF POTENCY

I also obtained some organic neem oil. I got it through Amazon, and it came directly from India in an amber bottle. No directions, just the label that it is "Neem Oil."

Regardless, I had heard that Neem Oil is extremely perishable when it comes to keeping its potency (I just didn't know if it lasted for hours, days, weeks, etc). Four hours? That IS a very short time indeed. Wow! I still have 10 oz left in my spray bottle. That's a shame.

"MICRO MEASUREMENTS"

I had a very hard time figuring out how to how to reduce my neem oil/peppermint liquid soap recipe from two quarts water to two cups water. My calculations got it down to 2 cups water, 1/8 ounce neem oil, and 1/8 teaspoon Dr. Bonner's soap. I would have liked it go down to 1 cup... but figuring out what 1/16 measurements are is just insane!

ON A VERY POSITIVE NOTE:

This morning I checked all of my seedlings and the white flies where completely gone! My plants were still very healthy looking, so the mist of neem oil last night did not harm them in any way. Yay!

cheers
avatar
Windmere

Male Posts : 1425
Join date : 2013-02-26
Age : 48
Location : Fayetteville, GA - Zone 7B - 8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

Post  Triciasgarden on 4/9/2013, 5:49 pm

rock on
avatar
Triciasgarden

Female Posts : 1632
Join date : 2010-06-04
Age : 62
Location : Northern Utah

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

Post  Coelli on 4/9/2013, 11:34 pm

Windmere wrote:This morning I checked all of my seedlings and the white flies where completely gone! My plants were still very healthy looking, so the mist of neem oil last night did not harm them in any way. Yay!

Great news! Smile I don't have a lot of aphids (yet?) but man, do I have soil gnats.. Sad
avatar
Coelli

Female Posts : 300
Join date : 2012-04-30
Location : Los Angeles foothills

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Gauzy White Flies - Does anyone know how long neem oil lasts once it's been mixed?

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum