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Post  ASlatzer on Wed 01 May 2013, 10:12 pm

Hellloooo, hope someone out there can answer my question or clear up my confusion ... I am planning out my garden and am curious if there are any plants that need to be grown in pairs for pollination.... In Mel's book it says that we shouldn't have any of the same plants in adjacent squares but don't some plants need to be planted in pairs, like peppers? And some are just allotted just one per SF.... not sure how this should affect my planning...

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Post  littlejo on Wed 01 May 2013, 10:58 pm

I've not heard of vegetable plants that must be planted in pairs. Some fruits have to have a pollinator, but they don't have to be planted next to each other. Bees or other insects pollinate by going from plant to plant. Peppers are self pollinating. You can get a pepper if you only have 1 bloom on the plant. Tomatoes are the same way.
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Post  Turan on Thu 02 May 2013, 12:35 am

Welll corn is wind pollinated and needs to be planted in blocks.

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Post  ASlatzer on Thu 02 May 2013, 9:44 am

Thank you Jo and Turan! This will help with my planning : )
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Post  littlejo on Thu 02 May 2013, 5:21 pm

Sorry, I did not think about corn. I grow corn, but I have lots of room. Lots of folks put their corn in a Three Sisters garden, sometimes in the ground, rather than SFG.
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Post  Pollinator on Thu 02 May 2013, 7:47 pm

@Turan wrote:Welll corn is wind pollinated and needs to be planted in blocks.

Actually it's easy for you to be the pollinator for corn, even if it isn't in blocks.

http://gardensouth.org/2011/07/09/you-can-avoid-corn-pollination-failure/
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Post  yolos on Thu 02 May 2013, 10:08 pm

Pollinator - I have read that if you are trying to manually pollinate corn, before you drop the pollen on the silks, cut the silks back partway. One reason to do this is to keep track of which silks you have pollinated. Does this sound reasonable.
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Post  Pollinator on Fri 03 May 2013, 9:32 am

@yolos wrote:Pollinator - I have read that if you are trying to manually pollinate corn, before you drop the pollen on the silks, cut the silks back partway. One reason to do this is to keep track of which silks you have pollinated. Does this sound reasonable.

I've never heard of this. What you want is a grain of pollen on each silk. Each one that doesn't will produce a gap where there should be a kernel of corn. In light of the very short window of time when the silk is receptive, I wouldn't want to play around with this; I want to "git-er-done."

Those doing experiments in seed hybridization may think differently than the home gardener.
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Post  sanderson on Fri 03 May 2013, 4:12 pm

Planting in Pairs - I've heard that the only veggie that needs more than one plant is corn. The more the merrier, and the more community pollination!

As far as summer squash and cucumbers, I think they both have separate male and female flowers. Close relatives can cross pollinate, creating hybrid seeds. Not a problem if you don't save the seeds for the following year.

If you are growing cucumbers vertically, this is a good video. I swear that You Tube has some really good "how to" videos! I'm growing zucchini vertically. And trying to raise one lousy cantelope seedling vertically! It may be in the wrong sun location?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Cw_UHWBWg

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Post  jazzycat on Fri 03 May 2013, 6:06 pm

@sanderson wrote:Planting in Pairs - I've heard that the only veggie that needs more than one plant is corn. The more the merrier, and the more community pollination!

As far as summer squash and cucumbers, I think they both have separate male and female flowers. Close relatives can cross pollinate, creating hybrid seeds. Not a problem if you don't save the seeds for the following year.

If you are growing cucumbers vertically, this is a good video. I swear that You Tube has some really good "how to" videos! I'm growing zucchini vertically. And trying to raise one lousy cantelope seedling vertically! It may be in the wrong sun location?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Cw_UHWBWg


How exactly do you grow zucchini vertically? I would like to do that, but it's a kind of a bushy plant. I've been trying to find information about it, but so far, no such luck.

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Post  littlejo on Fri 03 May 2013, 8:17 pm

jazzycat, It's in a thread here somewhere!

Will try to explain, but this will be my first yr to try it.
Plant seed/transplant. Get fencepost/stake and put in ground near plant (This maybe should be done first!) As plant grows train and tie to the stake. I'm not too sure about this, I'll have to find that thread soon. I usually just train it to go over the side of the box, but room is getting tight in the isles.
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Post  camprn on Fri 03 May 2013, 8:25 pm

Jazzycat, there are many threads discussing pruning. Look in the search feature with the word 'prune'.
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To answer the OP question of multiple plantings for good pollination, I know that tommitillos require more than one plant for pollination.
Also needing neighbors of the same plant, cucumbers, squashes, melons...

Here is a little info about pollination.
http://msucares.com/lawn/garden/vegetables/pollination/

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Re: Planting in Pairs - Pollination

Post  jazzycat on Sat 04 May 2013, 12:47 am


Thanks Jo! That's a pretty decent picture showing it.

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Post  jazzycat on Sat 04 May 2013, 1:28 am

Also, looking through the zucchini threads, I found this video. This guy explains and shows how he does it really well. I'm glad I kept searching. Very Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ogPfOrJM0Ho#!

(didn't mean to go OT. sorry!)

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Post  sanderson on Sat 04 May 2013, 1:53 am

Thank you. I think now I WILL try vertically training my big zucchini. I was letting it, and the crookneck, spill over their corner boxes.
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