Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by trolleydriver Today at 3:25 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals Today at 2:32 pm

» Coffee Substitute?
by countrynaturals Today at 1:02 pm

» Tomato Questions
by brianj555 Today at 10:57 am

» California's Drought
by AtlantaMarie Today at 10:04 am

» Frames for SFG Beds - Versitile PVC frames for Protection
by AtlantaMarie Today at 10:02 am

» Hello from a 7b zone
by AtlantaMarie Today at 10:00 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Today at 8:31 am

» Newbie from Ayrshire, West Coast of Scotland
by plantoid Today at 7:27 am

» Worm bin?
by robert1938 Today at 6:47 am

» Butterfly Junction
by sanderson Today at 12:08 am

» Biochar?
by sanderson Today at 12:00 am

» Mels book
by sanderson Yesterday at 11:54 pm

» Today's Harvest
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:20 pm

» N & C Midwest: October 2017!
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:16 pm

» Any Strange and Wonderful Visitors? Photos please!
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:34 am

» My Compost Bin
by SQWIB Yesterday at 7:36 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by sanderson Yesterday at 3:38 am

» A great offer for a local SFG,er
by sanderson Yesterday at 3:07 am

» Hello from Gilbert, AZ
by LizDTM Yesterday at 12:21 am

» How to Grow Better Tomatoes
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:59 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:54 pm

» Helpful Beetles
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:45 pm

» Does MM improve with age?
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:41 pm

» to mulch or not to mulch
by sanderson 10/19/2017, 7:36 pm

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania, 3rd year SFG
by BeetlesPerSqFt 10/19/2017, 7:19 pm

» Garlic Growing Lovers
by SQWIB 10/19/2017, 5:31 pm

» Gardening & Homesteading Skills Summit REGISTER NOW!
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 11:23 am

» How much room for Tromboncino zucchini?
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 11:08 am

» Thumbs Up????
by sanderson 10/19/2017, 10:03 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  ETNRedClay on 5/6/2013, 11:44 am

I have a 4x8 in 4 kinds of Irish potatoes and the location is perfect. Next year, I don't want to have to shovel out 15" of Mel's mix created just for this bed, or throw it away for something that happened 100s of years ago across the pond...

If I grow here for several years and then have a problem, the worse that happens is I have no potatoes that year and have to dump the mix... which is the advice I'm getting already.

So, has anyone on this forum actually had problems which they could absolutely blame on not rotating potato crops?
avatar
ETNRedClay

Female Posts : 210
Join date : 2013-04-12
Location : East Tennessee of course

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  Turan on 5/6/2013, 11:57 am

Yeah, I got a blight in my potatoes one year, not much. Next year it wiped out most of the crop. By that point moving to a different part of the garden did not matter they got blight and died out as well. I did not plant potatoes again for almost a decade so to let what ever it was die out totally. I did not raise any tomatoes or other related crops. My problems started with cheap seed potatoes not certified disease free.

You can minimize the likely hood of trouble with certified seed potatoes but that does not keep spores floating in from neighbors or from tomatoes etc.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Belgrade, MT
Click for weather forecast
avatar
Turan

Female Posts : 2309
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  RoOsTeR on 5/6/2013, 12:31 pm

Yes, always buy certified potatoes. Crop rotation is never a bad idea, however by replenishing your beds with compost at harvest, you are essentially achieving the same thing. You can also plant other crops in those locations when not growing potatoes.

____________________________


I am my gardens worst enemy.
avatar
RoOsTeR

Forum Administrator

Male Posts : 4318
Join date : 2011-10-04
Location : Colorado Front Range

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  plantoid on 5/6/2013, 7:32 pm

Wire worm , eel worm and slug attack are common probs in un rotated potato beds ,


Initially blight is more to do with occuring when you get prolonged wet humid weather than not rotating as it is air borne spores that start it .

If you leave blighted spuds in the ground to " rot away " and the next year you put spuds in the same place no matter what the weather you'll usually see some blight in that crop & subsequent crops as well for a heavy spore infestation will be there in the ground .

If you think it through what you are doing is giving soil living potato and tomato pests a regular supply of food for a long period so the area is bound to end up harbouring more of the pests than if you practice rotation and starved them out the area ..
avatar
plantoid

Male Posts : 3737
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 66

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  ETNRedClay on 5/6/2013, 8:32 pm

plantoid wrote:what you are doing is giving soil living potato and tomato pests a regular supply of food for a long period so the area is bound to end up harbouring more of the pests than if you practice rotation and starved them out the area ..

Thanks all, you make a lot of sense. Especially this last part. I'm a big fan of starving out pests. Just never thought of it that way.
avatar
ETNRedClay

Female Posts : 210
Join date : 2013-04-12
Location : East Tennessee of course

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  greatgranny on 5/6/2013, 9:15 pm

ETNRedClay wrote:I have a 4x8 in 4 kinds of Irish potatoes and the location is perfect. Next year, I don't want to have to shovel out 15" of Mel's mix created just for this bed, or throw it away for something that happened 100s of years ago across the pond...


The soil that you added to the bed for potatoes can be used for other crops. You would only have to move all but 6 - 8 inches and plant other crops in that bed. The left overs? Well, I'd add it to a bed that didn't have potatoes or other Nightshade plants. Wait at least 3 years to plant any Nightshade plants in that bed.

Keeping a record of past years helps to remember when not to plant and when it is okay.

avatar
greatgranny

Female Posts : 652
Join date : 2012-05-25
Location : Central Minnesota - Zone 4

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  camprn on 5/6/2013, 9:33 pm

Also, blight happens every year, not just centuries ago. It has already been reported in Florida in 2013. Click the link.
The trouble with blight and potatoes is that the blight can remain viable in any living tissue from the year before, So, if you missed a wee potato in the bed and it stays there and is infected, it can infect the entire bed the next planting season.

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14165
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 55
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Anyone experienced problems by NOT rotating potatoes?

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum