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Post  jazzycat on 5/11/2013, 6:02 pm

OK, so I buried my bokashi about a month ago, and I went to dig holes to bury my blueberry bushes. There are all these tiny white things crawling around. Not sure what they are, if they might be baby worms, or termites, or something else. I did see an earthworm, only one, but I was so freaked out about it (yes, yes, you know how I get lol) I wanted to come ask, before putting my plants in the ground. These pictures are terrible, butI will try to get some better ones. In the meantime, can anyone identify these? THANKS!

(little white squiggles in the corners/edges of the photos)




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Post  jazzycat on 5/11/2013, 6:14 pm

better pictures.






I'm thinking that is a termite. Is this a problem? What should I do?

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Post  llama momma on 5/11/2013, 6:23 pm

When I dig in my non-sfg flower beds and hit an ant nest, I think I see those, or something very similar, and thought they were baby ants. Honestly, I'm not sure what they are but I'd plant the bushes anyway. Hope someone else comes along soon to help you out.
Baby worms look like miniature adults. That's for sure.
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Post  camprn on 5/11/2013, 6:47 pm

All sorts of things live under the ground. I would plant the bushes.

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Post  jazzycat on 5/11/2013, 7:02 pm

One more thing. I also noticed there was a kind of a funky smell. The bokashi had not all completely broken down yet, so it could've partly been that. I had also buried a bag of mushroom compost in the trench, and added some EM to help it break down all the way. It didn't smell "earthy" though. The dogs loved it though and ran over and immediately starting sticking their noses in it trying to eat whatever was there. So..... do you think that's also OK? Thanks!

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Post  plantoid on 5/11/2013, 7:39 pm

Put a couple of those grubs in a clean lidded jar , if they turn into a dark red chrysalis they & then hatch into flies your bokashi was Kiboshed ( ruined /no good or polite words of a similar nature Laughing )
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Post  jazzycat on 5/11/2013, 8:54 pm

@plantoid wrote:Put a couple of those grubs in a clean lidded jar , if they turn into a dark red chrysalis they & then hatch into flies your bokashi was Kiboshed ( ruined /no good or polite words of a similar nature Laughing )

affraid So does that mean I shouldn't plant there? And should I try to kill off the grubs, or maggots, or whatever they are? ugh.

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Post  camprn on 5/11/2013, 9:07 pm

I would just plant the bush and move on to the next project. Once what ever you have composting in the hole is done rotting, all those advantitious critters will likely move on to greener pastures.

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Post  meatburner on 5/11/2013, 10:27 pm

@camprn wrote:I would just plant the bush and move on to the next project. Once what ever you have composting in the hole is done rotting, all those advantitious critters will likely move on to greener pastures.

Agree completely, just plant the bush and quit worrying about every little thing. The soil will take care of itself without you interfering.
Baby worms are baby worms, not some monster looking creature. They are little worms!!!
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Re: what do baby worms look like?

Post  artisticfoodie on 5/11/2013, 10:47 pm

Based on my 8+ years in Pest Control Sales, and a Certified Applicator in the State of Texas, that would be a worker termite. Sad
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Hopefully the termites are confined to your beds and not your home. Termites feed on cellulose, which is found in wood, paper cardboard etc. I am sure you are probably wigging out about now. You can do a visual inspection around your home's foundation and look for evidence. Termites will typically build shelter tubes up your foundation wall and typically stop where the brick starts. That is one area they enter the home. Shelter tubes look like the pictures below

If you find these then it would be a reason for concern. I would contact a reputable pest control operator in your area for a termite inspection. Most good ones will do it for free.


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Post  camprn on 5/11/2013, 10:54 pm

@artisticfoodie wrote:Based on my 8+ years in Pest Control Sales,
Oh MAN! Are you going to be popular around here for insect ID help! And thanks for the info about the termites......... Do they eat blueberry bushes? I thought they didn't normally eat live vegetation.


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Post  artisticfoodie on 5/11/2013, 10:59 pm

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@artisticfoodie wrote:Based on my 8+ years in Pest Control Sales,
Oh MAN! Are you going to be popular around here for ID help! And thanks for the info about the termites......... Do they eat blueberry bushes?

They eat cellulose, found in wood, paper, cardboard, drywall paper, text books etc. I have only seen a couple of cases where they were actually found on live trees. Blueberry bushes - no experience sorry.
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Post  meatburner on 5/11/2013, 11:09 pm

@camprn wrote:
@artisticfoodie wrote:Based on my 8+ years in Pest Control Sales,
Oh MAN! Are you going to be popular around here for insect ID help! And thanks for the info about the termites......... Do they eat blueberry bushes? I thought they didn't normally eat live vegetation.


I am really interested in what other live plants termites will attack as well. Is it more often fruit bushes and/or plants like grapes or strawberries?

Oh, the OP was asking about what baby worms looked like. My bad for hijacking your question.
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Post  artisticfoodie on 5/11/2013, 11:16 pm

I don't believe they go after plants like that. Mostly on dead trees, wood in contact with the ground. Once they make it inside the house any wood or paper products are fair game.
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Post  meatburner on 5/11/2013, 11:22 pm

artisticfoodie, I think the OP was asking what baby worms look like, not a lessen in termite control. Starting a separate thread on termites would be nice and you could offer your expertise there on the subject of termites. JMO. Just trying to be helpful.
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Post  camprn on 5/11/2013, 11:40 pm

@meatburner wrote:artisticfoodie, I think the OP was asking what baby worms look like, not a lessen in termite control. Starting a separate thread on termites would be nice and you could offer your expertise there on the subject of termites. JMO. Just trying to be helpful.
Except that the photo that the OP posted , she was asking for ID, which artistic foodie thought was a worker termite. The photo that Jazzycat posted was not of a baby earth worm. A baby earth worm looks like this. She is preparing to plant blueberry bushes, thus I asked if termites would damages the bushes.


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Post  jazzycat on 5/11/2013, 11:40 pm

OK. As the original poster, I did ask what baby worms looked like. I also asked if they might be termites. I KNOW termites exist in nature, and they probably exist organically everywhere. I did have cardboard over the trench, as I was hoping to attract earthworms. I do not want to plant the blueberry bushes if they will be a problem (whatever they are). However, IF they ARE termites, because termites CAN BE a problem to the home, I'm wondering if I shouldn't also try to eliminate them BEFORE planted the blueberries.

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Post  meatburner on 5/11/2013, 11:45 pm

Hey folk, it's all good! We are trying to help each other and learn new things.
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Post  jazzycat on 5/11/2013, 11:59 pm

ftr, as the OP, I personally don't mind when my threads grow organically and move into other subjects. I don't mind if my threads are hijacked. I actually learn things that way! Very Happy If my question remains unanswered, I'll ask it again. So please, no worries! What a Face

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Post  jazzycat on 5/12/2013, 12:07 am

So... to plant, or not to plant. That is the question. Wink

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Post  camprn on 5/12/2013, 7:14 am

I would plant.

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Post  CapeCoddess on 5/12/2013, 8:26 am

@jazzycat wrote:ftr, as the OP, I personally don't mind when my threads grow organically and move into other subjects. I don't mind if my threads are hijacked. I actually learn things that way! Very Happy

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Post  artisticfoodie on 5/12/2013, 9:23 am

I'll take plant for the win Very Happy ........
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Post  jazzycat on 5/12/2013, 4:08 pm

@artisticfoodie wrote:I'll take plant for the win Very Happy ........
OK, I'll plant.

As the expert on termites, can you give me any suggestions about what I should do about them if they aren't around the house? I know they're in the yard, I've seen them before over in one corner. It's a corner of the property where we don't do much to it, we just allow it to be organic, with fallen leaves, bamboo, etc. It's also kind of boggy in that corner. I've never seen them in other parts of the yard though. Do you think the bokashi could have drawn them out from there? Or maybe there were some eggs in the mushroom compost that I buried with the bokashi? At any rate, should I leave them be or try to kill them off with some DE or something? I would hate for them to become an issue because of something I could have prevented.

Thanks bunches, and thanks for the ID. Smile


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Post  artisticfoodie on 5/12/2013, 4:26 pm

They are in the ground, I am not sure about GA but here in North Texas there are approximately 10 -12 colonies per acre. They are out there, they may never make it to the house, they may already be there. You can think of them like ants under the ground - they are constantly foraging for food (cellulose). The workers job is to get the food and return to the colony, this is done daily. The colony along with the queen is located several feet down in the ground (5' - 10') so treating the surface will do no good. I'll leave it at that for this forum. If you would like more info you can email me or pm me specific questions and I certainly can go into more detail.
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