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Post  sanderson on 10/6/2013, 4:03 am

CC, Your stewed tomatoes look yummy!

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Post  lyndeeloo on 10/6/2013, 8:29 am

Today's plan is raspberry jam and red pepper jelly.

I made crabapple jelly and crabapple butter from our own tree last Wednesday.

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Post  johnp on 10/6/2013, 11:52 am

I printed the recipe that Plantoid posted for green tomato chutney yesterday and left it on the kitchen counter. My better half saw it and gently informed me there will be no more chutney's until I reduce the amount of apple and peach chutney currently in her pantry. I filed the recipe and put away the canning stuff until next year.

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Post  camprn on 10/6/2013, 12:14 pm

@johnp wrote:I printed the recipe that Plantoid posted for green tomato chutney yesterday and left it on the kitchen counter. My better half saw it and gently informed me there will be no more chutney's until I reduce the amount of apple and peach chutney currently in her pantry. I filed the recipe and put away the canning stuff until next year.
you could gently suggest that chutney makes wonderful holiday gifts. Wink 

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Post  plantoid on 10/6/2013, 3:37 pm

@johnp wrote:I printed the recipe that Plantoid posted for green tomato chutney yesterday and left it on the kitchen counter. My better half saw it and gently informed me there will be no more chutney's until I reduce the amount of apple and peach chutney currently in her pantry. I filed the recipe and put away the canning stuff until next year.
What's it taste like on corn flakes & milk ??? Laughing

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Post  johnp on 10/6/2013, 5:00 pm

The peach maybe but the raisin haters apple is too savory. I went way overboard last year and my friends are tired of jars showing up on their front porches.

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Post  camprn on 10/6/2013, 8:45 pm

made garden style pasta sauce today, now it's time for canning.

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Post  plantoid on 10/7/2013, 5:27 pm

@johnp wrote:The peach maybe but the raisin haters apple is too savory. I went way overboard last year and my friends are tired of jars showing up on their front porches.
Move to a new neighbourhood ??? Laughing

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Post  plantoid on 10/7/2013, 5:38 pm

For anyone in the UK .
I've run out of sensible wide mouthed canning /bottling jars & couldn't find any within 20  miles .


 I happened to drive past"  Wilkinsons" , they didn't have any either , driving home it struck me that they might have them in their on line shop .

So on getting home found that Wilko.com the online part of the store does indeed have the clip over Kilner  jars available in various sizes plus they also have other types of preserving canning /bottling jars  .
You can buy on line and providing you spend over £30 each time they will deliver free to a store near you for you to collect or charge for a delivery to your home ( several delivery options available ) .

 Best thing of all is they are a fraction of the other internet or shop  prices .
 

This afternoon I ordered and paid for 14 x  half litre clip downs ,  ready to pick up tomorrow after 16.00 hrs.

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Post  lyndeeloo on 10/8/2013, 9:10 pm

Made 36 jars of raspberry jam Sunday. All the berries came from our little 3x15 raspberry patch.

Made 19 jars of red pepper jelly and 7 jars of roasted garlic jelly yesterday.

Today is more Salsa. Should get about 28 8oz. jars out of this batch.

The canning cupboard is really filling up!

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Post  llama momma on 10/8/2013, 9:22 pm

Today was 4 pints of pickled grape tomatoes, yesterday 4 pts apple butter.  Tomorrow should be the last qt jar of applesauce.  Over the past couple of weeks the kitchen has gotten a workout like never before.  Shocked

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Post  unit649 on 10/9/2013, 12:58 am

I have been dehydrating most of my extra Tommy Toe tomatoes.  Added some fresh basil and they have my kitchen smelling so good.
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Post  plantoid on 10/9/2013, 5:59 pm

We picked up the 14 x 1/2 litre clip over canning jars this afternoon , after unpacking them I soaked off the labels and put them through the dishwasher on a very hot cycle in readiness for sterilizing some for hot water batch canning all the rest of the crystal lemon cucumbers tomorrow

About 15.00  I spent 1/2 an hour or so using the mandolin to slice up nearly 10 pounds of the cucumbers and sprinkling cooking salt over each layer as I laid then in lidded glass bowls to bring out the water as they stand over night ready for rinsing off the salt ,  blanching , packing and HWB canning tomorrow .

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Post  herblover on 10/10/2013, 8:47 am

Two more meals worth of stuffed peppers ready to vacuum pack tonite when I get home. That makes 9 meals worth so far and still have peppers coming on.

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Post  plantoid on 10/13/2013, 8:00 pm

13/Sept 2013
Today I made just over 2 & 3/4   litres ( 5 & 1/2 pint approx. )  of chutney using real sour cooking apples , green & red tomatoes ,  a couple of green & red capsicums , some fresh root ginger , a small whole bulb of minced garlic , loads of minced onions , raisins and a pound of light Demerara sugar & 80 gram of salt .

 Instead of using malt vinegar I used 6 % spiced white diluted to 3 %  

 Then when simmered & stirred for 2 hrs. or so hot water canned it all , save for two awkward jars .
This is the third & fourth failures at HWB canning & pressure canning this year using  KILNER JARS with approved  butyl rubber seals & clip over glass lids .

Though as they are brand  new jars with clip over lids,  I'll have a play tomorrow and see if I can can plain hot water after " adjusting "  the wire clip over clamps to make then clamp a tiny  bit tighter & prove the jar & seals integrity .

 Here is the pan pictures with about another hour of simmering to go


 




 This next picture is the actual bottled batch ready to go in the HWB .
 My recipe says there is no need to HWB so long as the chutney is scalding hot when put  in to preheated sterilized  jars .  I like to be on the safe side ......... for your a long time dead:lol: 



 

 We test tasted the some that had cooled & set on a plate in the fridge .. very very nice , not as acidic and strong as a malt vinegar chutney would have been

Now all we have to do is sit and twiddle our thumbs till 21 Dec when it will have matured and  developed into something really beautiful .

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Post  Nonna.PapaVino on 10/13/2013, 9:31 pm

Oh, Plantoid, what beautiful canning shots!  You've inspired me!  Tomorrow I shall try the green tomato/Granny Smith apple chutney posted elsewhere on this forum.  MMMMM, can't wait (like you indicate) until mid-December to try the chutney with, uh, what?  Masala or vindaloo chicken?  What are you planning?  Nonna

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Post  plantoid on 10/13/2013, 11:06 pm

Neither ..
 It will be a  ham salad with hand carved sweet cured ham , our own lettuce & hopefully some kohlrabi sliced fresh  , our own sweet pickled lemon crystal cucumbers , the chutney ,a hard boiled egg with a teaspoon of Heinz salad cream and a sprinkle of curry powder on it   , a shop tomato , some chives and chopped raw onions frrom the garden and a chunk of red Leicester cheese with a warm roll or slice of home made bread ..made  with 50/50 white and whole grain flours.
 
It's for my birthday treat .
This meal is what we know as a ploughman's lunch .  Though I'll give the traditional pint of homemade  still cider or beer  a miss and have a cup of milky white tea instead .

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Post  sanderson on 10/14/2013, 1:58 am

Your Birthday??  Well, Happy Birthday.birthday all the way from California.

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Post  plantoid on 10/14/2013, 9:16 am

@sanderson wrote:Your Birthday??  Well, Happy Birthday.birthday all the way from California.
Thankee kind Sir ,

 But it's a bit premature for it's on the 21 Dec ..  still the thought was there.

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Post  sanderson on 10/14/2013, 2:09 pm

Opps, I thought you were celebrating your birthday! Embarassed Embarassed  Just a note, I am female. Very Happy Sigrid

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Post  cheyannarach on 10/14/2013, 2:51 pm

The snow is coming down again and I just picked the last of the beets to pickle!  Sure would be nice to have help, beets are a pain!  They are sooo delicious though so it makes it worth it!

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Post  plantoid on 10/14/2013, 4:24 pm

@sanderson wrote:Opps, I thought you were celebrating your birthday! Embarassed Embarassed  Just a note, I am female. Very Happy Sigrid
No probs Sigrid  .

Being an English gentleman,  using the queens English for writing dictates that if I don't know the gender of the person I'm writing to I have to address that person as " Sir "

 As in " Dear Sir ".
I'll not hold it against you for being a Lady Laughing 
 
 I suppose I could have put " Thankee kind M/r/rs /iss /ms or just plain don't know , but I'm not politically correct or adept Laughing

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Post  plantoid on 10/14/2013, 4:57 pm

Arrrragh and ARRAGH loudly ,

Out of five hot water bath bottled Kilner jars with clip over lids four have failed to seal correctly, some failed within the first couple of hours when cold .
 
 I re canned asap after re boiling the contents for 8 min in a big pan & putting filling up new jars using new lid seals  then HWB'd  them for 25 min so should be OK all jars are now safely sealed.
 whilst I was sterilizing the new jars & seals I tried to find out why so many jars would fail ..was it me , the seals or something else.

 I ruled out me for I've successfully canned loads of things . I ruled out the seals for I've used six  packets of six  brand new seals some  worked some didn't , on looking at all the failed to seal  and new ones  with a x10 magnifier I couldn't detect any fault.
 That only left the jars , the lids and the over centre clip down arrangement.

I got a sheet of frosted glass and set the wire of the clips on it & compared them against some I knew had successfully sealed , on checking with a calliper everything matched up Ok.


That only leaves  the lids and jars then.
 I found that a seal face on a lid fits nicely into the top of a ceramic ramekin dish so I used the glass sheet to check the trueness of the rim on the ramekin dish .
 Lovely not a even a single thickness of grease proof paper could be slid under any part of the dish rim
 I then checked out all the glass lids using the ramekin dish .. one failed  with almost 1/8 th of an inch distortion on the sealing face. .. that's almost the thickness of the butyl sealing bands
  
 When I checked out the difficult to seal jar bodies I was hugely dismayed to find that I have nine jars with just under  1/8 th of an inch distortion on the rims . The rims look like hammocks ( well not so pronounced but you'll understand where I'm coming from ).

There is no way I cold ever seal the jars , there was a clue to all this that I didn't realize what it meant.
 When canning up some plain hot water to see what happened in the HWB I noticed that some jars were expelling a long thin continuous stream of air on one side of the jars. This is where the air was easily escaping when  hot water was in the jars.
 I took the jars out as soon as I noticed the bubbles and carefully noted where on the rim it had come out .
Sure enough every time it was at the lowest point (of  the hammock) of the rim where clamping  pressure on the band would be the least or non existent .

 I've now contacted the Kilner customer service people and sent them some pictures of the problem .
 I'm awaiting their reply as to what they are going to do to resolve the problem.

 Moral of this long saga :-

 From now on I'll always check the trueness of the glass seal  faces if I ever buy any more canning jars  ..... no matter who makes them .

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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/14/2013, 5:33 pm

Wow! 

What made you decided to go with Kilner jars instead of Bell or some such?

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Post  Turan on 10/14/2013, 5:45 pm

Excellent detective work, David!

I shall go forth and check my jar rims for such among those that I notice have not been sealing correctly. Using bands that screw down, thus pulling the band into fairly equal sealing pressure/contact all the way around, I am less concerned about them. But the jars them selves, especially among the smaller wide mouth jars that I use for gift size salsa and jams, those could use a checking with a pane of flat glass to make sure they can seal properly.

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