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Marigolds Not So Merry!

Post  WriterCPA on Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:12 pm

I thought I was planting dwarf marigolds (4/square) but my idea of dwarf and the seed packager's seem to be very different. So now I have big marigolds that should have been one per square crowding each other and the surrounding squares. They are pretty much planted in the traditional 4 squares within the square pattern, although in some squares I was feeling a little fae and used marigold to mark the intersections of squares; these are not so bad because they are mixed with one square plants like peppers and egg plants.

The question is in the 4/square groups do I pull up all four, put one in the center and move the other three to a sunny patch that they will enjoy or only move three, which means still some over shadowing of carrots and beets who are neighbors, but lots of room for basil and Swiss chard on the other side (or vice versa.)

Does anyone know which choices will yield the better result and not result in zero marigolds and/or under production of my garden when I am done?

Also, were these aggressive marigolds why my radishes did not form properly?
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Post  Pollinator on Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:56 pm

Prune those babies. Hard! They don't mind a bit.

Were the radishes under the marigolds, so they got shaded?

Did you have a hot spell? Radishes don't like heat. I would only grow them spring, fall and winter here.
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Post  WriterCPA on Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:54 pm

Prune marigolds? OK.

I've never been much of a pruner, maybe because I associate it with my father's fervent attacks on anything green that often left them poor things close to death and sometimes were fatal.

Verifying: Clip leaves off at the stem. Close to the bottom or mid or evenly up and down?

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Post  Marc Iverson on Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:53 pm

Marigolds leak a chemical into the soil that can kill nematodes and some other bugs or larva too, I think, though it doesn't last in the soil too long. As an example, I think you're supposed to grow marigolds in the same patch to have the chemicals in your soil for longer than the year they're there. African marigolds are supposed to be stronger, if I recall correctly; so much so that "some of the more tender herbs" won't thrive if planted close by.

Radishes, especially being a root crop ... perhaps they were effected?

Odd that your dwarfs didn't stay dwarfs. Mine are thriving (I have at least 20, and most all are small or dwarf variety), and none are any bigger than advertised.
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Post  llama momma on Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:29 am

I recently transplanted marigolds from one square to another.  Yes, you can prune the daylights out of them, I do in order to make them behave within a square. 

In your case I would keep one in the middle of the square and trim it up as needed.  To transplant the others somewhere else I find the easiest way is to wet the soil, lift gently from below trying to preserve as much of the roots as possible.  Take the plant over to the new site and plop that baby right in.  Of course a nice drink of water would help at that point too.  I moved some about two weeks ago and they are doing fine. It's part of the beauty of Mel's mix being so soft that enables easy transplanting.
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Re: Marigolds Not So Merry!

Post  WriterCPA on Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:51 pm

Thank you all so much!

Rooster, the heart of the problem lies in the post you suggested. "Dwarf" refers to size of the flower! So big bushy plants with small flowers -- which is what I have. Although French marigolds appear to have both small flowers and bodies.

I'm betting on the on-again-off-again storm actually showing up this afternoon. That should give me lots of really wet dirt to play with in the AM. Some marigolds (those close to beans) will move to fill in a spot where the rabbits ate my zinnias in the front yard and others will get richly deserved haircuts! My garden will no longer look like it's singing "The Age of Aquarius!" Laughing 

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Post  RoOsTeR on Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:56 pm

The topic actually covers several types of marigolds, with all sorts of tips.  Wink

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Post  jkahn2eb on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:29 am

Marigolds have almost become a weed to me.  I don't mind them - they are easy to pull if I don't want them - but they are hardy little guys that are growing in non-SFG areas of my desert landscape yard with minimal water.
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