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Post  wcfujita on 8/3/2013, 9:27 am

I'm new to forums & gardening and I am trying to learn as much as I can.  This year was the first year I tried SFG and companion planting.  Next year I want to try different varieties of veggies and I was curious to know what other's felt were the best green beans, peas, tomatoes, etc. and why.  I was reading the "What are you eating from your garden" forum and saw all sorts of varieties of veggies I have never heard of (ex. Scarlet Runner Beans & Lemon squash).  Any suggestions to try next year are greatly appreciated.

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Post  camprn on 8/3/2013, 10:31 am

I go for the tried and true veggies, mostly because I have limited space and don't want to take up too much space with experimenting with new varieties. My standards are Gilbertie, San Marzano, sweet 100 and yellow pear tomatoes. I am trying sungolds this year.

The greens that keep on giving all season is swiss chard and kale.

Beans are rattlesnake beans, excellent production if kept well picked and can be used as green or dried beans.

Peas of choice are Sweet Ann sugar peas.


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Post  Marc Iverson on 8/4/2013, 3:00 am

Here's another vote for Sungold cherry tomatoes. Very productive, great flavor, and they have a neat way of almost "glowing" when they're just reach ripeness.

I also had great luck with Blue Lake green beens before, and this year my Kentucky Wonders are large and vigorous plants just starting to flower (we have weirdly unreliable weather here in Oregon that has made a lot of plants late this year). Both are pole varieties. I'm hoping the KW's turn out like the Blue Lakes did for me in a previous year -- come home from work and what seemed like an almost barren vine suddenly has lots of pickable pods on it! That was in the steadier California weather, though -- might be a lot different here in Oregon.

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Post  wcfujita on 8/4/2013, 7:54 am

Thank you both so much.  I am taking notes Smile I have been planning next years garden.  We are making more raised beds so I can try different things and new varieties of veggies.

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Post  camprn on 8/4/2013, 8:02 am

I meant to say Sugar Ann not sweet ann peas. Sorry about that.

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Post  lyndeeloo on 8/4/2013, 8:24 am

@camprn wrote:I go for the tried and true veggies, mostly because I have limited space and don't want to take up too much space with experimenting with new varieties. My standards are Gilbertie, San Marzano, sweet 100 and yellow pear tomatoes. I am trying sungolds this year.


camprn, please tell me more about your tomato standards. Such as why you've chosen them, their specific uses, expected production levels, etc. I want to make a planting list for next years tomato crop. I have been having particularly poor results with my Romas the last few years. The Beefmasters and Beefsteaks I've always grown are great but I'd really like to try others. Much of my crop ends up canned for pasta sauce and I'd like to try making a V8 juice, but we still need lots of good eating tomatoes. I've not had much luck with heirlooms in the past, although most people rave about them. I must be doing something wrong to them.

I will be trying the Sugar Ann peas next year for sure.

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Post  camprn on 8/4/2013, 8:40 am

@lyndeeloo wrote:
@camprn wrote:I go for the tried and true veggies, mostly because I have limited space and don't want to take up too much space with experimenting with new varieties. My standards are Gilbertie, San Marzano, sweet 100 and yellow pear tomatoes. I am trying sungolds this year.


camprn, please tell me more about your tomato standards. Such as why you've chosen them, their specific uses, expected production levels, etc. I want to make a planting list for next years tomato crop. I have been having particularly poor results with my Romas the last few years. The Beefmasters and Beefsteaks I've always grown are great but I'd really like to try others. Much of my crop ends up canned for pasta sauce and I'd like to try making a V8 juice, but we still need lots of good eating tomatoes. I've not had much luck with heirlooms in the past, although most people rave about them. I must be doing something wrong to them.

I will be trying the Sugar Ann peas next year for sure.
I choose the cherry types for eating out of hand or at the table during the growing season, the gilberties and San Marzanos for canning and storage.
I really like the Gilberties because they have a very thin skin which is easy to remove, fresh on the table are like a beefsteak in their juiciness and taste, very fleshy without being pithy like regular romas, few seeds, have exceptional flavor and make great sauce, juice and salsa. They are an indeterminate tomato and give up fruit for many weeks. Because of this I like to have a lot of plants to get enough fruit to can at once.
The San Marzanos are also a sauce tomato, not pithy like regular romas and  are good producers. They are a determinate tomato and give a bunch of fruit in a short time. Good for canning. Also, a lot of the TV chefs like the San Marzano tomato. What a Face

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Post  lyndeeloo on 8/4/2013, 9:36 am

Thank you camprn! Do you start these from seed yourself or do you purchase the plants? The Gilberties and San Marzanos sound exactly like what I'm looking for!

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Post  camprn on 8/4/2013, 10:11 am

I start them from seed. If you go to the trading post thread I have a few posts there.

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Post  yolos on 8/4/2013, 10:30 am

Camprn - I tried Gilberties (thanks Quiltbea) this year and I have a question.  I planted 12 different varieties of tomatoes.  The best tasting was Brandywine (though not very productive in my garden).  The next best tasting was the Gilberties so I want to continue planting them next year because they work for me as a slicer and as a paste tomato. 

But I had one problem.  I planted my first tomatoes in my SFG with MM.  Every variety came down with Bacterial spot and Bacterial speck very early (and later with early blight) so I planted all of my backups in pots away from my SFG garden.  They were planted in pots using potting mix.  The only tomato to get BER in these pots were the Gilberties.  Can you tell me if the Gilberites are susceptible to BER.  Usually the BER goes away after the first set of tomatoes, but this year the Gilberties still are showing the BER on almost all tomatoes.

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Post  wcfujita on 8/4/2013, 11:36 am

@camprn wrote:I go for the tried and true veggies, mostly because I have limited space and don't want to take up too much space with experimenting with new varieties. My standards are Gilbertie, San Marzano, sweet 100 and yellow pear tomatoes. I am trying sungolds this year.

The greens that keep on giving all season is swiss chard and kale.

Beans are rattlesnake beans, excellent production if kept well picked and can be used as green or dried beans.

Peas of choice are Sweet Ann sugar peas.


 Funny my eyes must have self corrected because I wrote Sugar Ann on my paper.  Smile

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Post  camprn on 8/4/2013, 11:39 am

@yolos wrote:Camprn - I tried Gilberties (thanks Quiltbea) this year and I have a question.  I planted 12 different varieties of tomatoes.  The best tasting was Brandywine (though not very productive in my garden).  The next best tasting was the Gilberties so I want to continue planting them next year because they work for me as a slicer and as a paste tomato. 

But I had one problem.  I planted my first tomatoes in my SFG with MM.  Every variety came down with Bacterial spot and Bacterial speck very early (and later with early blight) so I planted all of my backups in pots away from my SFG garden.  They were planted in pots using potting mix.  The only tomato to get BER in these pots were the Gilberties.  Can you tell me if the Gilberites are susceptible to BER.  Usually the BER goes away after the first set of tomatoes, but this year the Gilberties still are showing the BER on almost all tomatoes.
Very likely your mix is either lacking in the proper nutrients to prevent BER in the gilberties OR the pH is off so the plant cannot take up the proper nutrients. I have typically seen only BER in the first fruit, but not usually the following fruit of the Gilberties, but I keep growing them because I really like them. feed the gilberties and give them a bit of epsom salts and powdered milk, which may or may not make a difference... If you are going to test the growing mix, do it before you add anything. Also, check the back threads about BER for more recommended remedial action.

Regarding the OP, when thinking about what to grow, heirloom varieties have desirable qualities, but are often prone to a variety of diseases and physiological conditions that make them a challenge to grow well.

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Post  wcfujita on 8/4/2013, 3:04 pm

Where does everyone get there seeds?  Do you buy them from more than one distributor?

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Post  wcfujita on 8/4/2013, 3:32 pm

What kind of garlic does everyone plant?

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Post  camprn on 8/4/2013, 3:34 pm

@wcfujita wrote:What kind of garlic does everyone plant?
There are quite a few threads about this very subject. you can probably find them using the search feature. I have success with the softnecks.

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Post  wcfujita on 8/4/2013, 3:37 pm

oh, sorry.  I toyed with should I do a search or keep it in this.  I will search first post last Smile  Thank you.

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Post  camprn on 8/4/2013, 4:40 pm

@wcfujita wrote:oh, sorry.  I toyed with should I do a search or keep it in this.  I will search first post last Smile  Thank you.
It's all good, no worries!

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