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Post  CapeCoddess on 8/4/2013, 7:30 pm

I planted spinach today for fall - Bloomsdale Long Standing and Big Ruffles. I know nothing about it except that in Spring it's here and then gone in before you can blink.

Something I just read and didn't know is that the cabbage worm eats it. Evil or Very Mad  For me that means I have to cover. Didn't have to worry about that in the Spring.

Has anyone had success growing spinach in Fall? Any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated.

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Post  WriterCPA on 8/4/2013, 9:22 pm

I will plant Burpee's Harmony Hybrid spinache for my fall crop tomorrow. It says 42 days to harvest, so I'll race you to the dinner table. cheers 
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Post  WriterCPA on 8/4/2013, 9:38 pm

This post on Gardening with Hydrogen Peroxide had some success in handling cabbage worms. http://proliberty.com/observer/20030112.htm My one hesitation is that this fellow used a fairly strong 8% solution.

I found a few other links that used weaker solutions, and given the ability of H2O2 to kill plants, in this case, "less is more." The following link showed dilutions for both 3% and 35% H2O2 concentrations. http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html

I hope H2O2 will help with my the rust virus I keep getting on my beans. (planting some new wax beans for fall harvest.)



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Post  RoOsTeR on 8/4/2013, 10:02 pm

I don't normally like using stuff in my garden, but I did finally break down and applied some BT, my cabbage worms were so bad. It's one of the very few things that I've used that bought pleasing results.
I did some fall spinach and lettuce last year in containers off my patio. I wasn't getting around to good then and needed it close. It did really well in the cooler temps. I would say it did better and lasted longer than my spring plantings. Good luck with it CC!

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Post  cheyannarach on 8/4/2013, 11:12 pm

I have had good luck with Tyee spinach!  Good luck with the worms!
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Post  carmelita on 8/4/2013, 11:48 pm

While living in zone 6b I had spinach in the garden and never finished the fall clean-up. The spinach just sat there covered with the falling oak leaves. In the spring when I went out to clean the garden, I pulled back the oak leaves and had small new leaves on the spinach.
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Post  camprn on 8/5/2013, 7:06 am

@carmelita wrote:While living in zone 6b I had spinach in the garden and never finished the fall clean-up. The spinach just sat there covered with the falling oak leaves. In the spring when I went out to clean the garden, I pulled back the oak leaves and had small new leaves on the spinach.
Yes this is a good point. Some plants can be sown in the autumn and will go dormant for winter. With good protection they will come through the freezing season and produce very early in the spring!

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Post  CapeCoddess on 8/5/2013, 10:39 am

@WriterCPA wrote:I will plant Burpee's Harmony Hybrid spinache for my fall crop tomorrow. It says 42 days to harvest, so I'll race you to the dinner table. cheers 

That's a hands down winner for you, Writer.  My last years fall planting didn't sprout until the following March. *lol*  Will check out the H2O2 link now.  I have an old booklet on it by Dr Bragg.  He may have gardening hints in that, I don't remember, but can look into it tonight.

Cheyannarach, I've heard good things about Tyee and there's a handwritten note in my ANSFG book on the spinach page that it could be a year rounder up here.  But I haven't found it yet so may have to order thru a catalog.

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Post  donnainzone5 on 8/5/2013, 11:50 am

I had great luck with Monstreaux de Viroflay last fall and also this spring.

However:  Nine per square for this variety is overkill!  The leaves are so huge that I simply couldn't keep up with the harvest from just two squares--even though I gave some of it to my neighbors.

Probably four to five of these "monsters" per square would suffice.
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Post  Lavender Debs on 8/5/2013, 12:05 pm

donnainzone10 wrote:I had great luck with Monstreaux de Viroflay last fall and also this spring.

 Thanks donnain... I'm always looking for something new to try and this is a great tip.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/9/2013, 3:25 pm

So here's my follow up:   I planted a sq each of Bloomsdale & Big Ruffles.  They started off great but then began to shrink until they disappeared.  Shocked I'm hoping they will reappear in the spring and have since covered the sqs with finished bush bean plants.

In another box under cover I planted 1 sq of Big Ruffles a few weeks later and some of them are still growing.  Matter of fact I pick a few leaves here and there for my smoothies.  They are very tiny, mind you, about 3 inches high with 2 inch long leaves.  This photo makes them look larger than they are:

I've located the Tyee seeds at a local nursery and will pick those up next year unless I build a new box soon, in which case I'll buy them to plant now for an early spring crop.

How's your spinach doing?  I hope you're having better luck that I am...

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Post  landarch on 10/9/2013, 8:17 pm

This year I direct seeded spinach in early September and had poor germination due the warm temps...and then started some in flats last week so I could move into the shade if needed.  I planted Tyee, Oriental Giant, Summer Perfection, Baby Catalina, and Monstrueux de Viroflay.  I plan to fill in any open squares through the fall with spinach and garlic.


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Post  Marc Iverson on 10/9/2013, 10:47 pm

Holy moley, that's a lotta transplants!
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Post  landarch on 10/9/2013, 11:43 pm

256 spinach seedlings...we love spinach throughout the winter (fresh greens, cooked, in wraps, in omelets, etc.)...and I plan to give some away to friends and family.
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Post  cpl100 on 11/24/2014, 7:55 pm

I had planned to put out some fall spinach (samish) but the day I was going to plant it, my packet went missing!  I just found it.


Is it too late to put it out?
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Post  camprn on 11/24/2014, 10:40 pm

@cpl100 wrote:I had planned to put out some fall spinach (samish) but the day I was going to plant it, my packet went missing!  I just found it.


Is it too late to put it out?
Sadly yes. We will be getting 6+ inches of snow on Wednesday. The outdoor growing season is done. 

Now, all that being said, you could sow the seed and hope for early spring germination.

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Post  sanderson on 11/24/2014, 10:57 pm

@Marc Iverson wrote:Holy moley, that's a lotta transplants!
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Post  cpl100 on 11/24/2014, 11:44 pm

@camprn wrote:
@cpl100 wrote:I had planned to put out some fall spinach (samish) but the day I was going to plant it, my packet went missing!  I just found it.


Is it too late to put it out?
Sadly yes. We will be getting 6+ inches of snow on Wednesday. The outdoor growing season is done. 

Now, all that being said, you could sow the seed and hope for early spring germination.
I was kind of hoping that if I threw in the seed tomorrow that it would grow in the spring.  I am NEVER out there in early enough in Spring to plant spinach.  I've heard others had it overwinter so I'd hoped we could here in NE.  I had no idea we are due for snow.  That is downright depressing!  Thanks!
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Post  CapeCoddess on 11/25/2014, 3:26 pm

Hi Cindy!

I've tried planting spinach seeds for spring, lots of them.  The only ones that come back in spring for me are the ones that had already started growing in the fall.   Why not try some of the seeds now.  Maybe it'll work for you.

Snow??? Shocked  Not here....right?

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Post  cpl100 on 11/25/2014, 4:47 pm

Well, gals, the seed is in the box--four squares.  I guess the worst that happens is----nothing!   Shocked   If it's going to work, when should I see 'something'?

It's hard to believe CC but yesterday when snow was mentioned I checked my phone which indeed said 1-3 inches for me.  However, the temperature is going to have to drop--a lot--in order for that to happen.  Not that it has never dropped 40 degrees overnight, but I am hoping that it won't!
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