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Post  syphlix on 9/22/2013, 11:56 pm

Hello,

I am about to plant my fall garden and aren't sure what to put in front of the other.

I'm in Austin and have one bed, 6'x4' situated east-west

I just got a 6pack of brussels sprouts yesterday, but also have some peas to plant.  One of the peas go to 5-6', the other goes 6-8'.

Which one should I plant behind the other so that they don't block too much light?

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Post  Marc Iverson on 9/23/2013, 1:37 am

I can't think of anything else that climbs in the fall except peas. Mel suggests putting trellises, and by extension climbing plants, preferentially on the north side of your garden. That way they won't block the southerly sun from the rest of the garden, and they'll also leave the majority of your garden getting as much sun as possible. East or west, and climbing plants would eventually block either the morning or the afternoon sun from other plants.

Brussels sprouts can get tall too, and may block other plants from getting sun because of it. You might want to take care to position them where they don't block other plants from the sun.
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Post  plantoid on 9/23/2013, 4:07 am

Perhaps you should also consider the foot print of the sprouts as well as the height as they are usually quite big .... two or three plants will fill a 4 x 4 foot square bed .
 Were it myself I'd use separate beds .
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Post  camprn on 9/23/2013, 6:26 am

I always put the peas behind ( north of) the Brussels sprouts.

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Post  syphlix on 9/23/2013, 8:37 am

Ah ok - I will only have one bed.  Next year I will have more though!

I will put the peas behind the brussels.

What do you guys think about  planting a row of lettuce between brussels and peas to give it some spacing?  Lettuce doesn't need full sun right?
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Post  camprn on 9/23/2013, 12:05 pm

@syphlix wrote:Ah ok - I will only have one bed.  Next year I will have more though!

I will put the peas behind the brussels.

What do you guys think about  planting a row of lettuce between brussels and peas to give it some spacing?  Lettuce doesn't need full sun right?
This will not be necessary, The peas will be long gone before the BS plants inhibit anything . In fact you could probably plant lettuce in the same squares that the pea plants come out of. Brussels sprouts are long growing. 5-7 months

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Post  syphlix on 9/23/2013, 10:34 pm

ah I had no idea.

Do peas just grow their pods then the plants die and you pull them out?  They don't just keep making peas til it freezes?
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Post  syphlix on 9/23/2013, 10:40 pm

if brussels take 5-7 months are they going to live through the winter?
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Post  camprn on 9/24/2013, 7:14 am

@syphlix wrote:if brussels take 5-7 months are they going to live through the winter?
pea plants will expire or their production drops dramatically. In your area BS WILL probably make it through the winter fine. How cold does it get and for how long?

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Post  syphlix on 9/24/2013, 8:20 am

well it will usually go below freezing at least a couple times a winter, but really not that often or for extended periods of time
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Post  walshevak on 9/24/2013, 9:58 am

You might luck out as pea plants can take a light frost. Production may stop during the shortest days of winter, but resume as the days get longer and give you a good crop before your heat starts next spring.

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Post  Marc Iverson on 9/24/2013, 4:11 pm

There's always growing under a row cover. A farmer at the local farmer's market told me that he gets an extra month or two of growing under a row cover, and some of his crops continue to produce right through the winter. With our generally mild winters here (snow is infrequent and usually melts off in an hour), the row covers let his plants survive through winter, he says. Also they make his plants really thrive, because they keep much more heat in and keep a lot of the cold wind out. His plants get a little less sun, but the heat retained makes a huge difference.
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Post  plantoid on 9/24/2013, 5:20 pm

Using the local knowledge is about the best thing you can do besides using a quality MM .

 I like the covered growing . 

Did you know that snow acts like a mild fertilizer when it melts as it has filtered all sorts of particles out of the air from miles away and brought it to ground in your patch .

 ( makes organic outdoor gardening or watering with rain water amusing sometimes ).

 Here in the UK we plant over wintering peas ,  often pre soaking soaking the peas for 24 hrs. in paraffin before planting to stop slugs and mice etc eating the growing peas seeds whilst they are in the ground.
The peas can usually take a couple of days at minus 2 centigrade but much colder or longer and they get zapped .

Using fleece type crop cover as against plastic sheet seems to be a good idea as you won't get the condensation from the soil hanging around the emerging plants.
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Post  camprn on 9/24/2013, 5:43 pm

I believe the OP is in Texas. The point about taking your gardening queues locally is very important.

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Post  Marc Iverson on 9/24/2013, 6:09 pm

Soaking in paraffin? That's pretty interesting. I had thought that paraffin was solid at room temperatures, though? so how would you soak seeds in it for 24 hours? or plop them in paraffin without cooking them?

I love peas, but wonder if gophers would just eat any I plant in the large gardening beds my neighbor lets me use. They came up under a bunch of my tomatoes this year, but luckily they didn't care for the taste of tomatoes and went away after stunting only one. Just about killed our Japanese red maple, though.
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Post  sanderson on 9/24/2013, 8:00 pm

Okay, so I looked up "England Paraffin" and it is a liquid. I guess that paraffin 'wax' would be the solid form. In the US, we usually think of "paraffin" as a solid until it's heated.
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