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Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts on 12/31/2015, 12:18 pm

What a fun variety!  If she doesn't answer you can google it, I'm sure there's information out there to guide you.

Our favorite Cauliflower dish is what we call "Mock-a-foni" or Cauliflower mac n cheese.  With that color it's a natural!
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Post  has55 on 12/31/2015, 3:55 pm

Thanks CC and AJR. I'll try the family first.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 12/31/2015, 5:50 pm

@has55 wrote:Thanks CC and AJR. I'll try the family first.

That's sweet! I love you
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Post  quiltbea on 12/31/2015, 9:04 pm

I'm not a cauliflower lover but grew it for my family.   There are very slight flavor differences in the colors.
The cheddar is mild, slightly sweet and creamy in flavor.
The purple ones are mild, slightly sweet but with a slight nutty touch.
They are all grown the same, in early spring or in cooler climes, starting in the summer so they can be harvested in the fall since the pests are fewer.
I harvested them when the heads looked full but before they started to spread.
Also, I always covered my white ones, called 'blanching' so they kept their pristine white color.  I would pull the leaves up around the forming heads and clip them together over the small white heads with a spring clothes pin so they would not get yellowish.  But species these days don't seem to have that problem of turning yellow.  They pretty much stay nice and white without 'blanching' them out in the garden.

I hope I was able to help if only a tiny bit.
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Post  has55 on 1/1/2016, 12:13 am

Thank you quiltbea. VERY HELPFUL!!!
quaestion-this spring, my white cauliflowers(2) got large, remain tight, but started getting  brown dots. It slowly spread, till I figured out they were spoil. Do you know what it was. I didn't pull the leaves over until they were very large. I only had two of them.
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/1/2016, 9:00 am

Okay, I'll add the cheddar & purple varieties to the wish list... I'm not a cauli fan, but I know it's so healthy! Maybe those flavors will be the ticket!
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Post  quiltbea on 1/1/2016, 11:23 am

The brown spots on cauliflower are caused by moisture.  Not harmful but I would harvest the head and cut off the brown spots since they are the start of spreading and will eventually ruin your head.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 1/1/2016, 11:38 am

I will try one SF with cauli. I like it raw. Need to build a 4x4 so I have more room boogie woogie
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Post  has55 on 1/2/2016, 10:01 am

@quiltbea wrote:The brown spots on cauliflower are caused by moisture.  Not harmful but I would harvest the head and cut off the brown spots since they are the start of spreading and will eventually ruin your head.
Thank you. Harvested yesterday.
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Post  Kelejan on 1/2/2016, 1:37 pm

Keep these videos coming, has55, give me inspiration.  I would love that hoop house with the covered rows inside.  Such a difference to the garden outside.
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Post  trolleydriver on 1/2/2016, 3:15 pm

Great videos has55 ... sure wish I had that hoop house in my backyard.
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/3/2016, 8:11 am

+1!
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Post  jimmy cee on 2/13/2016, 9:11 pm

Pictured here is a 2 x 8 bed
I have a 4 x 8 bed with a cold frame on the end that I would like to copy this work.
Is there a mathematical way to figure the length of those top angle pieces ?

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Post  CNida89 on 2/14/2016, 2:29 am

I wish I could be of assistance, Jimmy.

I looked around, but it seems to me (and I am the farthest you can be from Math literacy) that in order to calculate the angle of an obtuse triangle, like the ones you will have, you need to know the length of the sides. So we know that on a 4x8 bed, the bottom part of that angle will be roughly 4 feet, but that won't help you because you need to know the angles themselves.

I can offer a suggestion: It won't be at all like you are doing with your's, both of my beds are 4x8, and I used just three pieces of 10' pipe for the arches. They fit perfectly.

Mine aren't nearly as pretty as your's is, though.
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Post  sanderson on 2/14/2016, 3:58 am

Jimmy,  The lower part is real easy, all right angles.  Cutting the horizontal header was a matter of measuring the length from where the pipe actually sets deep inside the fittings.  Added the nipples (short pipe pieces) and 45*s.  Then it was a matter of trial and error.  I put 2 long pieces of pipe into the 45s, long enough so they crossed at the peak of the roof/ridge pole.  Held up a 90 and measured back and forth until both pieces were equal lengths.  Adjusted for the internal depth of the fittings and did a final cut on them.  Assembled and prayed.  I may have gotten the first final cuts too short.  But once I got it perfect, all the rest for 2' I.D. beds were cut en mass.

My green house is O.D. 4' square.  The eaves were cut to about 32 1/2".  (I just went out side and tried to measure through the plastic)  that should give you a starting point.  

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Post  CapeCoddess on 2/14/2016, 6:46 am

I can't wait to retire... Looks like so much fun!
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Post  jimmy cee on 2/14/2016, 8:23 am

@CNida89 wrote:I wish I could be of assistance, Jimmy.

I looked around, but it seems to me (and I am the farthest you can be from Math literacy) that in order to calculate the angle of an obtuse triangle, like the ones you will have, you need to know the length of the sides. So we know that on a 4x8 bed, the bottom part of that angle will be roughly 4 feet, but that won't help you because you need to know the angles themselves.

I can offer a suggestion: It won't be at all like you are doing with your's, both of my beds are 4x8, and I used just three pieces of 10' pipe for the arches. They fit perfectly.

Mine aren't nearly as pretty as your's is, though.
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If you go further back in math literacy you may run into me....
I have one that is arched and it worked nicely, however I think I'd like to do this style and compare the 2...why ?????   LOL....don't ask me that one.
I will be able to get the measurement needed, just need to run a straight line down the middle and with a 45 degree fitting have the lengths of those angles after figuring what height needed for the sides....<<<
I should have been this inquisitive when younger in school...
Just a point of info...I majored in commercial photography in high school, 10th grade we had basic algebra, my system must have like that for my grades skyrocketed. That was the end of mathematics for me , the next 2 years were dedicated to a science related to photography..
After school my phot0graphy career ended....
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Post  jimmy cee on 2/14/2016, 8:33 am

@CapeCoddess wrote:I can't wait to retire... Looks like so much fun!
CC
Be careful, it's not all that it seems to be.
I ran across a former boss about 2 years after retiring from an electrical generating station.
We chatted briefly and I asked him if there was anyway I could get back to work.
He asked me "why Jim can't you make it out there" ?
I replied back " I just can't find time any more for rest and relaxation, it's all work" .
He hasn't talked to me since and that was about 18 years ago...LOL

I worked in a technical department that was considered an elite group.
Nothing could break up that feeling throughout the system, so the department was eventually dissolved.
And he was one to help dissolve it...LOL....
I figured...GOTCHA....

Seriously though, you'll love it.. one never knows in what direction they might go after needing to be somewhere qall the time...
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Post  jimmy cee on 2/14/2016, 8:41 am

Sanderson, thanks, I am considering something like you pictured for a small greenhouse on my deck. One that can be dismantled and stored until fall.

One for my bed will most likely need to be put together in place, due to the bed being out of square.
Aren't those 45 degree fittings so valuable ?
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Post  jimmy cee on 2/14/2016, 8:46 am

@sanderson wrote:

I'd love to put one of these together and then figure out what to do with it...LOL...I consider objects like this beautiful...my wife thinks the ballet is beautiful
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Post  sanderson on 2/14/2016, 1:56 pm

Thanks, Jimmy.  Here's what the breakdown looked like on the greenhouse last season.


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Post  trolleydriver on 2/14/2016, 3:29 pm

Have to agree with Jimmy ... beautiful.  Would really like to have one.  You folks in the USA have the advantage of easily obtainable and relatively inexpensive PVC pipe. Up here in Canada where I am located, it's less available and more expensive.
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Post  sanderson on 2/14/2016, 4:03 pm

TD, I didn't know that regarding PVC pipe. There's your side business!! Wink

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Post  quiltbea on 2/14/2016, 4:21 pm

I like that greenhouse.  It sure looks a lot stronger than my little one that fits over a 4 x 4 plot.




Mine is a tubular frame with a plastic cover that zips open for ventilation.
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