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Re: Do you fertilize? If so, what do you use?

Post  sanderson on 11/24/2013, 11:13 pm

I ordered mine off eBay.  But, I recently saw someone on my Craig's List selling worms and castings to order.

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Post  Marc Iverson on 11/25/2013, 1:19 am

I got some worm castings at Ace Hardware. Any place with a gardening section may have them, including places like Sears, Fred Meyers, Walmart, Bi-Mart, farm supply stores, local granges, etc.

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Post  llama momma on 11/25/2013, 4:25 am

Dstack,
Here is a thought. But its not for everyone.  For the highest quality castings you can raise your own worms too. There are threads on this forum but the very best (my opinion) concise beginners info is in a very well known small book called,  Worms Eat My Garbage, by Mary Appelhoff.  That's what I started with about 2 years ago with one container.  I have 3 Rubbermaid bins in the basement producing all the fresh worm castings I need.  I started with one bin but think I'll stop at the current 3 bins because I estimate they will produce at least 40 pounds of fresh castings per year.  That's a conservative estimate and not bad for eating kitchen waste and taking up maybe tops, 2 hours of my time per month for prepping the food and feeding. Harvesting castings twice a year takes hours but still, quality baby, quality!

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Post  sanderson on 11/25/2013, 12:10 pm

Or Josh's Worm Tube in larger SFG boxes if you don't have a basement or suffering spouse.

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Post  sanderson on 11/26/2013, 12:38 am

Dstack,  I swore I sent a reply regarding your photo but I can't find it.  You look like a kid with his first dollar from the tooth fairy.  Really happy!Very Happy

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Post  boffer on 11/26/2013, 12:50 am

@dstack wrote:...there's also so many myths that are perpetuated on the net and it's hard to know what to believe...
Also,

Anecdotal Factoid: A piece of unverified  information that is presented  as factual, and that is then accepted as true because of the constant repetition on general audience websites.

I would love to see a new forum here called 'Myth Busters', ala the TV show of the same name.  We have some forum members who are very good at digging up credible science based information that supports or disproves common myths and factoids.  It could be a very educational and interesting forum.

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Post  camprn on 11/26/2013, 6:21 am

@boffer wrote:
@dstack wrote:...there's also so many myths that are perpetuated on the net and it's hard to know what to believe...
Also,

Anecdotal Factoid: A piece of unverified  information that is presented  as factual, and that is then accepted as true because of the constant repetition on general audience websites.

I would love to see a new forum here called 'Myth Busters', ala the TV show of the same name.  We have some forum members who are very good at digging up credible science based information that supports or disproves common myths and factoids.  It could be a very educational and interesting forum.
silly me don't let me forget this idea. It's a good one.

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Post  llama momma on 11/26/2013, 9:36 am

Disagree. This type of sub forum has been tried before and shut down by the previous administrator, so..current and brand new forum members may appreciate knowing this before another one gets started. There are some people on this forum that love debate as sport. The mood of the discontinued sub forum got darker as debating became more heated.  A sub forum could once again lead to a few who want to showcase their debating skills. 

The whole point of this sfg forum is to support Mel's sfg method in a family friendly atmosphere.  Ideas are already shared day and night on a any number of topics. I think a great many of us enjoy this friendly manner of learning how to garden.

Final thought, I don't really care if a debating forum exists, just so members know what to expect.

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Post  camprn on 11/26/2013, 12:08 pm

@llama momma wrote:Disagree. This type of sub forum has been tried before and shut down by the previous administrator, so..current and brand new forum members may appreciate knowing this before another one gets started. There are some people on this forum that love debate as sport. The mood of the discontinued sub forum got darker as debating became more heated.  A sub forum could once again lead to a few who want to showcase their debating skills. 

The whole point of this sfg forum is to support Mel's sfg method in a family friendly atmosphere.  Ideas are already shared day and night on a any number of topics. I think a great many of us enjoy this friendly manner of learning how to garden.

Final thought, I don't really care if a debating forum exists, just so members know what to expect.
LM I don't recall what subforum to which you are referring... Boffer's suggestion was not an open debating forum but having an area where things may be clarified in the difference between personal opinion (anecdotal factoids) and facts. There are already posts that are somewhat mythbusting in nature. Some of them are called stickies and some of them are listed under the hover button.

In regards to perpetuating anecdotes and legends of the garden as facts -Everyone on this forum that makes a statement as a 'fact', should really back it up with a link.
Per the TOS, it is recommended that the poster be able to back the opinion up with facts and links and preferably science.

Muddying the waters with vague referrals to previous events that didn't sit well with you is not very helpful. Emotional rants are not beneficial in the garden, nor the forum.

Flaming will not be tolerated but helpful dialog, backed up with empirical evidence, is always welcome and as always all members are responsible for their actions on this forum, which is moderated. Everyone please review the TOS if you have any questions.


OK, now, back to the original post by dstack; what do you use, if anything, to feed your garden?


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Post  yolos on 11/26/2013, 12:30 pm

@boffer wrote:
@dstack wrote:...there's also so many myths that are perpetuated on the net and it's hard to know what to believe...
Also,

Anecdotal Factoid: A piece of unverified  information that is presented  as factual, and that is then accepted as true because of the constant repetition on general audience websites.

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I like the "Myth Busters" idea.  For instance, is it a myth that decomposed pine needles turn the soil more acid.  Don't answer this question here because it is the wrong thread to talk about this but this is just an example.

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Post  camprn on 11/26/2013, 6:39 pm

@yolos wrote:
@boffer wrote:
@dstack wrote:...there's also so many myths that are perpetuated on the net and it's hard to know what to believe...
Also,

Anecdotal Factoid: A piece of unverified  information that is presented  as factual, and that is then accepted as true because of the constant repetition on general audience websites.

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I like the "Myth Busters" idea.  For instance, is it a myth that decomposed pine needles turn the soil more acid.  Don't answer this question here because it is the wrong thread to talk about this but this is just an example.
Yolos, That is an exceptionally good question! I will look into that, do some research and get back to the Forum. Let us know what you find out too! Wink 

Another thing I sometimes use as a fertilizer to feed the plants, in particular leafy greens and Brussels Sprouts, is a wee bit of dried blood sprinkled around the root area. It gives a nitrogen boost which promotes foliage growth. It should be used with caution.
http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/soil-fertilizers/blood-meal-fertilizer.htm

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Post  dstack on 11/26/2013, 8:11 pm

@camprn wrote:OK, now, back to the original post by dstack; what do you use, if anything, to feed your garden?
Since this is my first season with my newly built SFG boxes I've been going by "THE BOOK" as much as I can. And since Mel said over and over that you don't have to fertilize these, that's what I planned to do... NOTHING. My experience has been just as Sanderson described in her first experience. Everything came up nicely, but then stopped growing, or at least slowed way down. My squash vines are a pale green, as is my basil and tomatoes. Yet, in the past my squash and basil grew dark green in Florida's sand with very minimal amendment. Last year I grew potted tomatoes (pic below) in nothing but my compost mix, while some had some cow manure and Miracle Grow soil. There was no noticeable difference between the variations of mixes. 



These are Everglade Tomatoes which are tiny grape tomatoes, but super sweet. They grow wild in the Everglades. This just before I started harvesting more than enough. 

Back to your question... last weekend I started using fish emulsion. I'll be looking for worm castings next. Very Happy

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Post  camprn on 11/27/2013, 6:25 am

WOW! Shocked  Those are happy tomato plants. okay  well done!

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Post  littlejo on 11/28/2013, 12:09 am

dsatck, approx how many pots of tomato plants? They sure look tasty!

My personal opinion/experience follows, no links available:

fish emulsion is fine but is very high in nitrogen, good for green leafy veggies, basil, spinach, lettuce,etc.

I've found that I never have enough worm castings to go around, and they are quite expensive to buy, so I make a worm tea and sprinkle around/on the plants, they love it!
2 cups castings in a five gal. bucket, add approx. a tbs. of molasses to feed the bacteria. I put an aquarium air pump to it for 24 hrs. I put about 1/2 cup per 2 gal watering can, and this makes it go further. I do not know if it would work for everyone, but, it works for me in SC.

I have found a few links that are good, but, most of the links, take the same ole info, and re-word it, and re-use the info, sometimes copying word for word. Some may have some science behind them, but, most are for in the ground gardens, not SFG. A grain of salt, and some common sense, and knowledge of your own area does more good sometimes, in my opinion.

I remember a part of the forum where peoples opinions got out of hand a bit. It was shut down very quickly.
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Post  llama momma on 11/28/2013, 3:46 am

@littlejo wrote:

My personal opinion/experience follows, no links available:
fish emulsion is fine but is very high in nitrogen, good for green leafy veggies, basil, spinach, lettuce,etc.

I have found a few links that are good, but, most of the links, take the same ole info, and re-word it, and re-use the info, sometimes copying word for word. Some may have some science behind them, but, most are for in the ground gardens, not SFG. A grain of salt, and some common sense, and knowledge of your own area does more good sometimes, in my opinion.

I remember a part of the forum where peoples opinions got out of hand a bit. It was shut down very quickly.
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Post  herblover on 11/28/2013, 6:54 am

I have a small indoor compost pot (it is ceramic with a charcoal filter in the lid); I dump my coffee filter and grounds in it as part of my composting daily.  I have never sought CG from anywhere else; I figure that gives me a high enough percentage of CG as part of my compost.

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