Square Foot Gardening Forum

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Ground Cherries
by BeetlesPerSqFt Today at 8:07 am

» Compost for Mel's Mix
by BeetlesPerSqFt Today at 8:05 am

» Cauliflower
by plantoid Today at 6:25 am

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing February 2017?
by Kelejan Yesterday at 10:10 pm

» Calling all chicken owners
by llama momma Yesterday at 8:27 pm

» Lower South Feb 2017
by mschaef Yesterday at 7:43 pm

» Hello from (near) our nation's capital!
by sfg4uKim Yesterday at 7:31 pm

» Mid-Atl - Mar 2017 - I'm a seed-a-holic
by sfg4uKim Yesterday at 7:29 pm

» My Solar Dehydrator at Work
by newbeone Yesterday at 7:19 pm

» Indoor Seed Starting Info?
by sfg4uKim Yesterday at 6:21 pm

» New SFG not sure where to go this year
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 5:12 pm

» Oh Baby it's getting HOT Outside
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 4:59 pm

» My name is boffer, and I'm a juicer.
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 4:45 pm

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 4:39 pm

» Hello from DFW
by RC3291 Yesterday at 12:26 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by Mellen Yesterday at 12:10 pm

» So. California & Inland Valleys -March / April Planting Guide
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:32 am

» Happy Birthday!!
by Kelejan Yesterday at 11:21 am

» How to save ground cherry harvest???
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:13 am

» Hello from Pottstown, PA
by newbeone Yesterday at 7:46 am

» Advice and Preparations for Sweet Potatoes in Wisconsin
by sanderson Yesterday at 1:25 am

» February 2017 Avatar: Time to Wake Up!
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 12:17 am

» Bare Root Fruit Trees
by countrynaturals 2/25/2017, 7:13 pm

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania, 3rd year SFG
by BeetlesPerSqFt 2/25/2017, 6:12 pm

» Invasive Tree Roots - Very important topic for newbies.
by sanderson 2/25/2017, 4:25 pm

» Winter Gardens - Photos
by BeetlesPerSqFt 2/25/2017, 12:45 pm

» Turan in the Western Mountains
by Turan 2/25/2017, 12:23 pm

» One Very Happy Earthworm!
by countrynaturals 2/25/2017, 11:14 am

» My experiences with commercial cedar raised beds
by ralitaco 2/25/2017, 11:06 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by sanderson 2/25/2017, 3:18 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

Why are my peas yellow?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Why are my peas yellow?

Post  syphlix on 12/18/2013, 8:50 am

Can anyone help me?  I'm in 8b.

My peas look pretty terrible.  Several squares of them have only grown to about 6" tall in two months, and the ones that grew more are very yellow for the bottom half of them.  I have barely watered them recently as we have been getting a good amount of rain.  These are being grown in an open bottom box but the top 9" (which shrunk to 6") is MM w/ 5 types of compost.

Any obvious reasons for the yellowing?


syphlix

Posts : 15
Join date : 2013-05-10
Location : Austin, TX

View user profile http://www.mgthomes.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  sanderson on 12/19/2013, 1:53 pm

syphlix, I was hoping someone else would answer because I have had that happen to my sugar peas. The lower leaves turning yellow isn't a worry. For myself, I am wondering if I planted bush instead of tall vining. How about you? The snow peas grow tall and vining (even if some of the lower leaves are yellow) producing flowers and pods. They are still doing fine even after the temps dropped into the 20's.

sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 12921
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  camprn on 12/19/2013, 2:04 pm

Yeah, all peas are prone to this yellowing of lower foliage. I'm not really sure why, maybe it was a dry period for that part of the vine.? Sometime the older foliage on the plants are just done. Who knows... The tops of your plants look good. Are they flowering yet?

Peas are very shallow rooted, so a top dressing compost and some mulch may help them. All garden peas are a vining type , as far as I know.

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books




camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14078
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  syphlix on 12/19/2013, 2:19 pm

I planted 4 varieties, but the ones along the trellis are definitely vine types.  I'm also amazed at the difference in heights between them all.

Yes it's troubling.  More than half of the leaves are yellow!  I also wonder if they are a bit leggy.  I've never grown peas before so I'm not sure how spread they are supposed to be.  The location isn't great - I only get a couple hours of direct sunlight a day now though it gets indirect all day.

syphlix

Posts : 15
Join date : 2013-05-10
Location : Austin, TX

View user profile http://www.mgthomes.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  syphlix on 12/19/2013, 2:20 pm

Yes the tops of them are flowering.  Maybe 1-2 flowers per vine?  How many flowers do you usually get?

syphlix

Posts : 15
Join date : 2013-05-10
Location : Austin, TX

View user profile http://www.mgthomes.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  camprn on 12/19/2013, 2:29 pm

@syphlix wrote:Yes the tops of them are flowering.  Maybe 1-2 flowers per vine?  How many flowers do you usually get?
As long as you keep the vines alive and the weather doesn't get too hot, the plant should put out a bloom every few days.

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books




camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14078
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  syphlix on 12/19/2013, 3:25 pm

Awesome!  How long from bloom to edible pea?

Do you think my plants look leggy?  Does it even matter?  I guess if there are flowers who cares how tall it is

syphlix

Posts : 15
Join date : 2013-05-10
Location : Austin, TX

View user profile http://www.mgthomes.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  CapeCoddess on 12/19/2013, 5:45 pm

@syphlix wrote:Awesome!  How long from bloom to edible pea?

Do you think my plants look leggy?  Does it even matter?  I guess if there are flowers who cares how tall it is

Your peas look fine.  I've grown bush peas that look like short vine peas so maybe the ones on the left of your trellis are a different variety than the ones on the right?  

As far as bloom to edible, it depends on the weather.  My peas planted mid summer refuse to pod up until the cool of fall has arrived, which apparently in these parts is a different time every year.  Rolling Eyes 

What's in front of the peas?  They look yummy!
CC

CapeCoddess

Posts : 5535
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 60
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  syphlix on 12/19/2013, 11:05 pm

Ah.  Ok much to learn.

The ones right in front of the peas are brussells sprouts - those seem to be doing well!

syphlix

Posts : 15
Join date : 2013-05-10
Location : Austin, TX

View user profile http://www.mgthomes.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  plantoid on 12/20/2013, 5:59 pm

Seeing the Brussels sprouts look to be doing fine I think your peas are at the end of their life , as pea plants die like that from the bottom foliage up as the season progresses .
One thing I would check out though is the planting compatibility .. something deep in my head  seems to prompt me of this ..it might be that the peas and Brussels are not quite as compatible as you'd hoped .

Normally when I have peas I pick them as soon as they are big enough for what ever purpose I want them for .. this keeps the vine producing flowers  & thus peas . Here in the UK when my peas are as tall as yours they would have had thirty to forty flowers or formed pods on them at various times per vine .

If you let the vines produce peas and hang back in the picking hoping for them to get really big late on in the season  I think it's fair to say that you'll be lucky to get 15 to 20 peas per plant .

 The reasoning is this... lots of plants only produce enough seeds to try and ensure their own replacement plus  a few more seeds for spares.  So once the pea plant has a dozen or so seeded  pods it's attained its purpose in life and goes into shut down .

You have to cheat nature .....keep picking them to keep them producing

plantoid

Male Posts : 3664
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 66

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  syphlix on 12/20/2013, 6:08 pm

Hrm. I have yet to see a single pea actually. They just started putting flowers out two weeks ago. I'm not sure what the lifespan is but the seeds were planted about 3 months ago.

I'll check up on compatibility. I wonder why some plants wouldn't get along is it something with their root systems?

syphlix

Posts : 15
Join date : 2013-05-10
Location : Austin, TX

View user profile http://www.mgthomes.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  camprn on 12/20/2013, 6:37 pm

As I mentioned before, garden pea plants have a shallow root system, and they need regular watering as well as a Mel's Mix made with quality composts. I believe that your plants are fine even if some of the old  foliage has dried on the vine. 

I plant my peas thicker than you did, because I know some of the plants are just going to not make it and I experienced similar things as you with some of my plants.

2011


2012


2013


In the last pic you can clearly see that there is a top dressing of compost to keep the roots cool, moist and fed. 

Pea plants can be fickle. I grow only the sugar anns and I sow about 18 seeds per square. Typically some of the plants dies before maturity but I tend to get a respectable harvest.

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books




camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14078
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  syphlix on 12/20/2013, 6:42 pm

Whoa

Now that's what you call a pea farm.  They look much thicker and healthier than mine.

I put 8 plants per square but in spring when I try again I'll plant more per square and i'll try to put them where they'll get more sun

syphlix

Posts : 15
Join date : 2013-05-10
Location : Austin, TX

View user profile http://www.mgthomes.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  camprn on 12/20/2013, 6:46 pm

@syphlix wrote:Whoa

Now that's what you call a pea farm.  They look much thicker and healthier than mine.

I put 8 plants per square but in spring when I try again I'll plant more per square and i'll try to put them where they'll get more sun
YUP! More SUN! They love the sun. AND good quality homemade compost (Or a multi source blend) will feed those babies what they need. My spring peas always do better than any late summer/ autumn plantings. And you can plant them early in the spring when it is still rather cold out.

If you have the space, I bet a second sowing would work for you now.
http://www.almanac.com/gardening/planting-dates/TX/Austin

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books




camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14078
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  plantoid on 12/21/2013, 2:49 pm

Camp says " If your quick you should catch the season" .

You could try " Plantoids Rocket Express peas Laughing  Laughing "  to get them germinated with hair roots and ready to plant them out.
 
Wrap individual peas in  2 x2 inch squares of absorbent paper kitchen towel and lay them on a plate of water in a warm dark place.
They will usually have germinated with a small shoot just about to emerge out the seed & be ready to plant out in the tissue  in four to six days ..don't let the plate dry out or become too flooded just enough water to 1/2 a pea deep .

 When I sow or plant out potted peas make a double line but stagger the plantings , making sure no tissue is showing above the ground to prevent it wicking moisture away from the peas

 IE.

o    o    o    o    o    o    o   o   o     line one
   o    o    o    o    o    o    o   o      line two


That way you get the recommended spacing's and get two rows for a greater crop if the bees do your pollenating as bees tend to try and stick to the same nectar source / same flower type  ..... .so one bee will pollinate as many pea flowers as it can before it flies off fully laden with nectar or pollen .

plantoid

Male Posts : 3664
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 66

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Why are my peas yellow?

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum