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If you could start over- what would you do differently?

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Re: If you could start over- what would you do differently?

Post  Goosegirl on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:06 am

I agree with SquareDeal - I tried too many different things. I am going to concentrate on fewer types and devote more space to each. That said, I had great success with the things that did grow well, and my goal of having a neater, more organized looking garden was a WHOPPING success! The no-weed thing is incredible, and I love the way my trellises contain the raging monsters (indeterminate toms, cukes, watermelons, etc!).

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Post  Mamachibi on Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:28 pm

I would have started bigger. (Yeah, I know, not something you're supposed to do.) It's just as hard to build four boxes as one, and then I could have gotten more of a running start rather than this crawl I'm at now. I also would have made sure that all four boxes were in before the snow flew because once it starts, gardening is most definitely over until it completely thaws.
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Post  Goosegirl on Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:59 pm

@Mamachibi wrote:I would have started bigger. (Yeah, I know, not something you're supposed to do.) It's just as hard to build four boxes as one, and then I could have gotten more of a running start rather than this crawl I'm at now. I also would have made sure that all four boxes were in before the snow flew because once it starts, gardening is most definitely over until it completely thaws.

I understand completely! Even tho' Mel recommends it, I did not start small, because I had a specific vegetable garden area that I needed to convert and I wanted it all done NOW!!! I made 7 real-size boxes, a 1x12 for a permanent asparagus bed, and one little 1x1 for the Carrot Week. It is done, my trellises are up, and I never thought I could have such a nice looking garden. Next year? The HERB garden converts to SFG!

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Post  AprilakaCCIL on Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:44 pm

@Goosegirl wrote:
@Mamachibi wrote:I would have started bigger. (Yeah, I know, not something you're supposed to do.) It's just as hard to build four boxes as one, and then I could have gotten more of a running start rather than this crawl I'm at now. I also would have made sure that all four boxes were in before the snow flew because once it starts, gardening is most definitely over until it completely thaws.

I understand completely! Even tho' Mel recommends it, I did not start small, because I had a specific vegetable garden area that I needed to convert and I wanted it all done NOW!!! I made 7 real-size boxes, a 1x12 for a permanent asparagus bed, and one little 1x1 for the Carrot Week. It is done, my trellises are up, and I never thought I could have such a nice looking garden. Next year? The HERB garden converts to SFG!

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Oh I just have to add this: I want a asparagus bed & a herb garden too!!! Envious --I am! Better add this to my want to do/do differently list.
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Post  janezee on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:42 am

As I bob and weave through the squash and tomato vines littering my aisles, I know I'd make lots more trellises. I couldn't decide on which styles would suit me best this spring, and then it was just too late! Ruefully, I was beginning to see the reason for 4'-wide aisles.
The upside to the mess is that the deer are reluctant to jump into the garden now!

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Post  shannon1 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:20 am

I would have used the entire sheet of plywood for the bottom of my T.T. 4x8 instead of cutting it down to 4x6 since as it turned out I was not as short on space as I thought. I also would not have planted black beauty egg plants. The Eastern type out produced it and tasted far better. Planted 2 different Eastern types in the fall garden.
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Post  Glendale-gardener on Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:20 pm

Aaahh, there is so much I would have done differently! I guess that's why I have next year!

- I would have made my aisles wider, I did 3 feet because I wasn't planning on growing anything that wasn't vertical(tomatoes, peas), or "compact"(Beans, carrots, etc.)
Then I decided to put my sons snake gourds in those beds and jeez! They are huge vines everywhere!

- I also would have kept them out from my fence a little further, I didn't realize how huge interdeterninate tomatoes would be- I thought I would have room to get behind them, but not so much.

- I'm fixing these 2 problems by building new long narrow beds for the tomatoes in a different spot and planting the gourds in my front yard in a bed just for my son's stuff stuff where they'll have room to spread.-I was surprised at how easy gourds are! The bugs ate every squash relative I grew except for those!

- I would have gotten an earlier start on bug control for the pumpkins and zuccchini- stupid squash bugs!! I didn't get a decent amount of pumpkins but they were all fairly small and I had to pick them a little early because eventually, the vines were just completely brown and dry, ugh.
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Post  mijejo on Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:22 pm

Glendale-gardener, I live near you in West Chester, and I also planted various gourds and squashes. I had a lot of problems with cucumber beetles eating and nearly killing everything. Did you have problems with them? I also had squash bugs. Yes, the squash plants did not do very well, but the gourds have done nicely. I notice the gourd leaves have a slight odor. Perhaps the bugs do not like their smell/taste.

For the squashes, I was able to get a few acorn, one butternut, two zucchini, two yellow neck, and two pumpkins. The pumpkins are about 10". I still have a wee one on the vine.

For gourds, I grew swan, snake, and bird house. The swan have produced the most.
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Post  southern gardener on Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:03 pm

i wish I would have known there was an "all new SFG". I built 10 boxes with sand in the recipe (the old recipe called for sand), and have fought it ever since. Also, I think the place I had mix my compost didn't use 5 types of compost. My stuff is usually small, and takes long to grow. i've added more compost, some "dirt" to firm up the MM since the water just went right through it. I've had periods of "success" but nowhere near what I used to get with my former garden pale
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Post  Chopper on Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:33 pm

@southern gardener wrote:i wish I would have known there was an "all new SFG". I built 10 boxes with sand in the recipe (the old recipe called for sand), and have fought it ever since. Also, I think the place I had mix my compost didn't use 5 types of compost. My stuff is usually small, and takes long to grow. i've added more compost, some "dirt" to firm up the MM since the water just went right through it. I've had periods of "success" but nowhere near what I used to get with my former garden pale

In a perfect world I would consider adding six inch boxes on top of what you have now and fill with MM starting from scratch. but this may not be practical for you. Live and learn. If it weren't for f*****g things up I would know nothing.

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Post  NHGardener on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:41 pm

If I were starting over, I would have liked to have prepared my boxes the fall before I began planting, so that they were fully ready by spring. I would have used more of my own compost, and mulched them over the winter so that they would be more nutritious, and give the soil time to attract earthworms, etc. I don't fully trust the commercial compost.

I would have kept better weed control between my boxes. I would've kicked my squash out of the boxes because the foliage is too thick and overcomes the other plants. I would've skipped the corn idea. (I'm replacing that space with strawberries next year - yay.)

I started with 5 boxes, and I wouldn't want to go any smaller than that. I needed all that space, and then some.

Next year: 4 squares of lettuce, not 8. One trellis of beans and one trellis of peas, not 1.5 trellises of each. Next year, the cucumbers go on the trellis.

Next year, my seedlings are going to be big and hardy by the time I put them out, so that the season gets started earlier. I'm investing more in a seedling setup for next year.

I also have some out-of-the-box projects planned, like an asparagus bed and a pumpkin patch, and sunflowers. And hopefully bees.
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Post  camprn on Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:08 pm

@NHGardener wrote:
I also have some out-of-the-box projects planned, like an asparagus bed and a pumpkin patch, and sunflowers. And hopefully bees.
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