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Post  tumtumsback on 1/29/2014, 4:30 pm

Searched the forums, but couldn't find the answer I'm looking for...

I've got conflicting points of view on the spacing of broccoli.

I've found people online saying you need 18" spacings, but in the SFG Book (version 2), it says 12" spacings.

I have six 3x3 raised beds. I want to plant 6 broccoli plants (3 calabrese, 3 romanesco), and I want to have 3 square feet left over for other items. According to http://www.mysquarefootgarden.net/plant-spacing/ , I have to space these 18" apart. According to the book, I could literally have 9 broccoli plants, each plant in it's own square foot.


Do you guys think I could do the 12" spacings, or 18" spacings?

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Post  camprn on 1/29/2014, 4:44 pm

One plant per foot/square is plenty.

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Post  boffer on 1/29/2014, 4:57 pm

Broccoli has been researched a lot.

To grow the biggest head size, plant one per 4 square feet.

To maximize harvest quantity for a given space, plant one per square foot.

(I was happy with the harvest I got when I planted 20 plants in a 4x5 box.)

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Post  quiltbea on 1/29/2014, 5:25 pm

I've had no trouble with one per square foot spacing.

Here's mine one per sq ft in front of my pea vines with marigolds and nasturtiums in the front corners and 2 sqs left for other things.

The same broccoli in July.

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Post  walshevak on 1/29/2014, 8:26 pm

Go to the Gallery above and click on the big stuff photos.  My broccoli came from a bed planted 1 per square.  Here is a picture.


Pole beans just coming up on back 4 squares where I took out the snap peas.  8 squares of broccoli  plus summer squash and  nasturtiums coming up in front 4 squares.  By the time the summer squash was any size the broccoli petered out.
Got at least 1 big head per plant and some of my side shoots got to be fist size.
 I did have to trim off some encroaching broccoli leaves, but they made good eating too.  I cheated a bit in mid May as we were starting to get really hot weather.  Put a bit of half strength bloom buster on the brocs to force the florets a bit faster. This pic is
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Post  jimmy cee on 1/29/2014, 9:34 pm

Walshevak
You broccoli looks terrific, I see you have covers.
Last year mine was eaten by everything that fly's.
I think I'll start them early in my cold frame, and keep them covered.

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Post  walshevak on 1/30/2014, 12:54 am

I get no brassicas unless I have covers. I cover everything until I have to open up for pollination. And even then I will keep half a bed covered if it is not blooming.

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Post  FamilyGardening on 1/30/2014, 3:01 am

@tumtumsback wrote:Searched the forums, but couldn't find the answer I'm looking for...

I've got conflicting points of view on the spacing of broccoli.

I've found people online saying you need 18" spacings, but in the SFG Book (version 2), it says 12" spacings.

I have six 3x3 raised beds. I want to plant 6 broccoli plants (3 calabrese, 3 romanesco), and I want to have 3 square feet left over for other items. According to http://www.mysquarefootgarden.net/plant-spacing/ , I have to space these 18" apart. According to the book, I could literally have 9 broccoli plants, each plant in it's own square foot.


Do you guys think I could do the 12" spacings, or 18" spacings?

depending on if you are going to only plant broccoli in this bed

you could plant 9 broccolis one in each square if you only want to plant 6 then I would plant them together at the north end of your bed allowing you to be able to have 3 more squares to plant something else in

the reason for planting one per square as a group together and not planting something else in between the broccoli squares is those other plants could get shaded out.....

hope that helps
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Re: Broccoli Spacing

Post  tumtumsback on 1/30/2014, 3:46 pm

Wow,

Thank you all so much for the excellent and quick replies!

Rose: I see what you mean -- it looks like Quiltbea is doing exactly what you are recommending // the only vegetables which I'll be growing that could be considered for trellising on the north wall are:

-Eggplant
-Tomatoes
-Peppers
-Squash
-Cucumbers

Any suggestions as to which vegetable I should grow on the north wall (the green stars in the picture I put together)?

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Post  Goosegirl on 1/30/2014, 5:58 pm

@tumtumsback wrote:Wow,

Thank you all so much for the excellent and quick replies!

Rose: I see what you mean -- it looks like Quiltbea is doing exactly what you are recommending // the only vegetables which I'll be growing that could be considered for trellising on the north wall are:

-Eggplant
-Tomatoes
-Peppers
-Squash
-Cucumbers

Any suggestions as to which vegetable I should grow on the north wall (the green stars in the picture I put together)?

Depending on the varieties you are planting, the cukes, squash, and tomatoes are the ones that would need trellising. If any of them are bush/determinate, they will not need trellis room. Cukes are generally vines, not bush, but there are some bush varieties. Squash, if a bush variety, STILL needs quite a bit of room for those big leaves. Determinate (bush tomatoes) will need staking and can be space hogs, but they don't need trellising. Determinate tomatoes NEED trellising, unless you want them to trail 5-10 feet across your box, walkways, pets, etc!

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Post  walshevak on 1/30/2014, 7:19 pm

Sound like cukes or tomatoes would be a good choice for you,  Remember, broccoli will bolt and go to seed when the temps get really hot (as I know it will in Baltimore)  At that time, rip out the broccoli, eat or freeze the leaves and put in something else, maybe bush beans or summer squash.  I actually started my squash before my broccoli was finished by planting on the edge of the box and trimming the broc leaves to allow sun.


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Post  FamilyGardening on 1/30/2014, 8:04 pm

broccoli is a cool weather crop if I was you I would plant something like spinach, lettuce, cauliflower, bok choi, cilantro, or sugar snap peas, you can find a sugar snap pea like *Sugar Daddy*that's doesn't need as much trellising as a pole type pea ..... if you want to trellis them then buy a regular sugar snap pea. 

by the time these guys are finished for the spring, it will be time for the warmer crops to go in....you should direct sow your cucumbers and squash and you can either by transplants for your peppers, tomatoes and egg plant or start your own a few weeks before your last frost date....use Mel's guide in the back of the book to help you figure out the dates. 

then depending on your growing season, you should be able to get in another crop for the fall....you would plant again cool weather veggies....

if you only want to grow just these veggies for this years garden then placing them in the bed would depend on what type you are growing.....

-broccoli

-Eggplant


-Tomatoes>    determinate? (is more bushy- would do better on a corner square) or
                     
                      indeterminate?
(grows more taller that you can single stem and use the trellis for its support)


-Peppers


-Squash ( vining?-use trellis) or (bush? use a corner square)


-Cucumbers (vining?-use trellis) or ( bush?-use a corner square)

hope this helps
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Post  Turan on 1/31/2014, 1:12 am

In my experience the older varieties of broccoli that you pick lots of side shoots from need more room. The modern make a head and pull out types only need a foot.

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