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Post  JustMe on 3/22/2014, 11:59 pm

Is there anyway to tell by the seedlings or by the young plant if they will be indeterminate or determinate tomatoes?

My kids planted tomato seeds at a community fair a weeks ago. They're growing and just formed their first set of true leaves. It would be really awesome if we can get at least one of the three plants in the SFG. The kids got a salsa recipe with it, so I'm guessing these won't be cherry tomatoes, but who knows?

We transplant tomatoes at the end of May here. Wanted to know for planning purposes, because I usually plant the indeterminate types.

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Post  Turan on 3/23/2014, 12:20 am

Vaguely, in my experience   thinking  rofl 
There is a range from very determinate to very in-determinant anyways. Generally speaking the determinants have stockier stems and leaves/growth nodes are closer together up the stem. Be prepared for anything  Very Happy 

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Post  camprn on 3/23/2014, 12:26 am

I can never tell them apart at the seedling/transplant stage of growth.

Did you happen to label the cups when the seeds were sown?

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Post  walshevak on 3/23/2014, 12:47 am

Assume indeter.  and have a trellis ready.  That way you will be ok.  I've noticed that even deter. grow so well in MM that a trellis is handy.

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Post  JustMe on 3/23/2014, 8:44 am

I didn't even think to ask the woman with the seed packet at the fair, because the seeds we plant at those kinds of events never seem to grow, lol. The sticker on the cup just says "Tomato." The cilantro seeds they planted did not come up. This will be part of the surprise.

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Post  sanderson on 3/24/2014, 12:47 am

The only tomato I can identify is Brandywine. I saved seeds from one I bought at the Heirloom Exposition in September and bought a pack of seeds. Seedlings from both look alike, but so different from the other 9 varieties I grew from seeds.
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Post  Marc Iverson on 3/24/2014, 1:06 am

I saw some very happy looking little tomato seedlings yesterday in the class greenhouse. Turns out they were marigolds.
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Post  sanderson on 3/24/2014, 2:54 am

@Marc Iverson wrote:I saw some very happy looking little tomato seedlings yesterday in the class greenhouse.  Turns out they were marigolds.

 rofl rofl   Thanks for the chuckle
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Post  jmsieglaff on 3/24/2014, 11:12 am

You can tell the difference between dwarf varieties and regular varieties (determinate or indeterminate) at the seedling stage but I don't think there is a way to tell a determinate from an indeterminate at the seedling stage.
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Post  camprn on 3/24/2014, 1:51 pm

@jmsieglaff wrote:You can tell the difference between dwarf varieties and regular varieties (determinate or indeterminate) at the seedling stage but I don't think there is a way to tell a determinate from an indeterminate at the seedling stage.
So, how  can you tell the difference between dwarf varieties and regular varieties (determinate or indeterminate) at the seedling stage?

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Post  jmsieglaff on 3/25/2014, 9:31 am

Dwarf vs. determinate/indeterminate tomatoes can be told apart when true leaves begin appearing.  If both kinds are grown in the same conditions, the dwarfs will have stockier stems and be about half the height when developing true leaves than regular (det/indet) tomatoes.

Here's a good video: http://nctomatoman.weebly.com/1/post/2010/03/a-video-about-dwarf-tomato-seedlings.html
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