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Post  gardenwriter on 4/29/2010, 12:49 pm

I am such a techno-failure. The only option I seem to get when accessing the vermiculite database is to enter new data, where as I am hoping to find out where I can buy verminulite in southeastern Wisconsin.

Can anyone help me?

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Post  Bec on 4/29/2010, 12:55 pm

I got the same thing. It looked like I had to set up a Google account and I really don't want to do that so I just exited out.

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Post  junequilt on 4/29/2010, 12:57 pm

I just accessed it without a problem . . .
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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/29/2010, 12:58 pm

I went to this link and there is 4 buttons, two for usa one is for input and one is to read. To read it click on the button that says "u s d b" I didnt sign up for a google account to read it. http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/Vermiculite-Entry-Form-h1.htm
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Post  boffer on 4/29/2010, 1:12 pm

Hi,

If I understand your post correctly, you can't read the database without signing up for a google account? I looked at it anonymously and can't duplicate that.

Anybody else?

Just for grins, try reading the database here:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkxGrCEb40U2dExrM09fbk9zWnE4cC1Gb2oyamVOMVE&hl=en
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Post  gardenwriter on 4/29/2010, 1:25 pm

Boffer, it worked! You have been one helpful garden buddy. Thanks!

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Post  Bec on 4/29/2010, 1:33 pm

Well, I guess it's just me then. I tried it again, clicked on US db and got a screen for goodle docs that you have to have an account to enter. Oh well. I probably don't need it anyway - I was just curious. Am really looking for a location where I can get some wholesale for resale since it's so hard to find but apparently there aren't any close to me in NC.

Glad it's working for everyone else. It's all right.

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Post  boffer on 4/29/2010, 1:35 pm

Uh, gee, thanks. But I didn't do anything!

The link code I posted was the same as what the button links to. Nobody is supposed to need a google account to view or enter data from our button links.

Keep me informed, please, if it happens again. Since I can't duplicate it, can anybody post a screenshot showing 'the must join' window?
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Post  boffer on 4/29/2010, 1:38 pm

At this very second minute, there are four anonymous viewers. What are you guys seeing?
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Post  Bec on 4/29/2010, 1:39 pm

Boffer,
I would but I don't know how. Don't worry about it though. It isn't essential that I get to the information. Thanks though.

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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/29/2010, 4:16 pm

I have an idea. If anyone needs the database.. post where you are and I will search it for you Smile It will give me something to do. I would like to help Smile or send me a note here Smile
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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/29/2010, 4:26 pm

4/12/2010 5:55:25 Atlantic Ave Orchard Center 5217 Atlantic Ave Raleigh NC 27616 919-878-8877 www.atlanticavenuiegarden.com $24.99
4/12/2010 5:42:02 Fifth Season Gardening 45 Banks Ave Asheville NC 28801 828-253-4112 $17.95
4/12/2010 5:43:15 Fifth Season Gardening 106 Greensboro St Carrboro NC 27510 919-932-7600 $17.95
4/12/2010 5:50:28 Fifth Season Gardening 900 Preston Ave Charlotte NC 28201 434-293-2322 $17.95
4/12/2010 5:53:14 Fifth Season Gardening 1616 Battleground Greensboro NC 27401 336-271-3373 $17.95
4/12/2010 23:09:45 Fifth Season Gardening 5619 Hillsborough Raleigh NC 27601 919-852-4747 $17.95
4/16/2010 13:50:03 Fifth Season Gardening 21-B Westside Dr West Asheville NC 28816 828-255-5007 Warehouse Location Only.
4/12/2010 5:51:21 Hudson's Hardware 77 Amelia Church Claton NC 27520 919-553-3030 $18.99
4/12/2010 5:52:24 Hudson's Hardware 305 Benson Road Garner/Raliegh NC 27529 919-772-4141 $18.99
4/12/2010 23:11:20 Logan's Trading Co. 707 Smart Drive Raliegh NC 27604 919-828-6337 $24.95
4/12/2010 5:49:29 Pike Nurseries Charlotte NC 704-341-7453
4/12/2010 5:54:05 Van's Hardware Greenville NC 252-758-2420
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Post  junequilt on 4/29/2010, 5:21 pm

Bec, if you are anywhere near Spartanburg, SC, you can get vermiculite very reasonably from Palmetto Vermiculite in Woodruff, SC.
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Post  Bec on 4/29/2010, 6:19 pm

Thanks junequilt. And thank you also Ha-v-v. I appreciate all your help. I'm in Western NC so Fifth Seasons will be the closet location.

Thanks again.

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Post  boffer on 4/29/2010, 10:47 pm

Is this what you are seeing?



and clicking on it gives you this:

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Post  Wyldflower on 4/29/2010, 10:54 pm

I'm seeing what you just posted ... I signed in using my google email address, and then I get a chat box that indicates "anonymous user 155" is viewing... for a minute, another anonymous viewer number was there, too.

I can access all the data. I didn't try entering into chat. Want to give that a try boffer?
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Post  boffer on 4/29/2010, 10:58 pm

A google account of any type shouldn't be needed to view the database or enter data. I've cleared my cache and cookies so I'm anonymous-I can enter and view no problem. thinking
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Post  gardenwriter on 4/29/2010, 11:32 pm

It is. What do you think?

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Post  Wyldflower on 4/29/2010, 11:33 pm

just as a sub-note... i could read the database without signing in... but could access chat (anonymous) after i did sign in.
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Post  boffer on 4/29/2010, 11:50 pm

@gardenwriter wrote:It is. What do you think?

There's no need to sign in when you're looking at the database. All you can do is look. The sign in is for managers of the database to fix errors, etc.
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Post  Bec on 4/30/2010, 5:46 am

The first image is not what I'm setting - I see the page with the 4 buttons to chose from. But the second image IS what I'm seeing.

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Post  gardenwriter on 4/30/2010, 7:23 am

So, I went out yesterday and found vermiculite at one of the places posted on the database. Now I have price and size info that I'd like to add. I tried inserting it, but it wouldn't work.

Yesterday I was a techno-failure. Today, I'll call myself a techno-fraud! I tried, but no luck. Any tips?

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Post  Wyldflower on 4/30/2010, 10:46 am

When you go to the database, you should see four buttons
1: enter US data
2: view US data
3: enter international data
4: view international data

and one more button underneath to report problems.

Button 1 brings you to the fill-in form to add data to the DataBase
Button 2 shows you the DataBase for the US, sorted by state
Button 3 is the form for entering international data
Button 4 shows the international DataBase.

You SHOULD be able to access any of these through the main 'DataBase' link.

It may take a little while for entries to show up in the database.

I wonder if some people have difficulty based on what browser they are using. I have no problem with either FireFox or with IE. If you still have trouble, and can get to the HELP button on the page, or post underneath here. I know Boffer and Ward are trying to iron out all the glitches.
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Post  boffer on 4/30/2010, 11:13 am

@gardenwriter wrote:Yesterday I was a techno-failure. Today, I'll call myself a techno-fraud! I tried, but no luck. Any tips? Gardenwriter

Nah, you're just a geek in training!! lol!

Sit tight, I'm writing a 'how-to'
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Post  boffer on 4/30/2010, 12:14 pm

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You must be logged in to the forum to see 'Vermiculite Database'



If you want to add a retail source to the database, click on the 'U.S. Form' button



That will open a window that looks like this. Enter your data appropriately.



If you are looking for vermiculite and want to read the database, click on the 'U.S. D.B.' button. That will open a window that looks like this



NOTE: no further log in is required. The log in is for database managers. All you can do here is read-you can't make changes. If you see errors in the database, please let the database manager know. Just use the 'Please report problems' button.




Is it clear as mud now?! Very Happy I'll move this to the 'how-to' forum once the questions are answered.

Thanks
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