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Post  jewlz2121 on 4/10/2014, 11:38 am

Does anyone have any ideas on how to deter carpenter bees?  I know many people would love to have more bees, but I have way too many of every kind.  I don't mind the average bee in the garden.  They don't seem to bother anyone but the flowers.  But I have so many carpenter bees that dart right at your head the second you walk onto my back deck.  Last summer, my 9 month old little boy was stung 5 times and ended up in the hospital.  I was stung once trying to rip his shirt off where the bee was.  My kids have a beautiful swingset and they are terrified of going to play outside because of these huge carpenter bees.  I don't remember them being this bad in April last year.  It seemed like they were bad towards the end of the summer but I thought it was due to my overgrown sunflowers and zinnias, which I plan on NOT planting this year to try to keep some of the swarming down.  I have no idea where their nest might be.  Any ideas?
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Post  walshevak on 4/10/2014, 11:58 am

Also  interested.  Got dive bombed on the deck this morning.

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Post  camprn on 4/10/2014, 1:07 pm

What do you want to deter the bees from?

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Post  walshevak on 4/10/2014, 4:30 pm

My best guess is they are after the aging wood of the deck.  Would love to replace it, but I've got a roof to replace this year.  And just praying the heat pump lasts till next year.

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Post  bnoles on 4/10/2014, 5:35 pm

The best thing I have found was to build myself a few bee traps and they REALLY work well.  You can purchase them on eBay, but they are so easy to make yourself.

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Everyone that visits ends up asking me to make some for them after they see how well they work, but I have had to learn to say NO after the first 50 or so.  Shocked

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Post  walshevak on 4/10/2014, 9:10 pm

Will these interfere with honey bees?  I need the pollinators but don't need the deck chewed up.

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Post  bnoles on 4/10/2014, 10:35 pm

@walshevak wrote:Will these interfere with honey bees?  I need the pollinators but don't need the deck chewed up.

Kay

Honey bees have absolutely NO interest in this trap

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/11/2014, 10:16 am

It's my understanding male carpenter bees do not sting, female carpenter bees will sting if extremely provoked, like grabbing one in your hand..
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Post  camprn on 4/11/2014, 11:55 am

@jimmy cee wrote:It's my understanding male carpenter bees do not sting, female carpenter bees will sting if extremely provoked, like grabbing one in your hand..
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Post  camprn on 4/11/2014, 11:56 am

@jewlz2121 wrote:Does anyone have any ideas on how to deter carpenter bees?  I know many people would love to have more bees, but I have way too many of every kind.  I don't mind the average bee in the garden.  They don't seem to bother anyone but the flowers.  But I have so many carpenter bees that dart right at your head the second you walk onto my back deck.  Last summer, my 9 month old little boy was stung 5 times and ended up in the hospital.  I was stung once trying to rip his shirt off where the bee was.  My kids have a beautiful swingset and they are terrified of going to play outside because of these huge carpenter bees.  I don't remember them being this bad in April last year.  It seemed like they were bad towards the end of the summer but I thought it was due to my overgrown sunflowers and zinnias, which I plan on NOT planting this year to try to keep some of the swarming down.  I have no idea where their nest might be.  Any ideas?
Do you have a photo of one of these bees?

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Post  H_TX_2 on 4/11/2014, 1:01 pm

Funny how things can be so different. I have thought about building one of those small carpenter bee houses to encourage more pollinators to come into my garden.

I planted some borage seeds in one of my beds this year.

Sounds like the carpenter bees get more defensive around their nests. Is it possible to find and seal up any nesting spots?
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Post  camprn on 4/11/2014, 2:08 pm

@H_TX_2 wrote:Funny how things can be so different. I have thought about building one of those small carpenter bee houses to encourage more pollinators to come into my garden.

I planted some borage seeds in one of my beds this year.

Sounds like the carpenter bees get more defensive around their nests. Is it possible to find and seal up any nesting spots?
I wonder if the insects that are giving jewlz a hard time are actually bees....


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Post  jewlz2121 on 4/15/2014, 10:36 am

They are most def bees. I want to deter them from our back yard so we can be outside without them bothering us. They hover around the back deck and my mailbox, but I have yet to see a burrow. I have no idea if it was a he or a she that stung us last year, but it was not provoked. My son was swinging in a baby swing...the bee crawled into his shirt and stung him 5 times. I was stung once. My husband has started practicing with a racket on them, it has helped control population a little. I saw the neighbor spraying pesticide at the ones in his yard. I will have to show him the trap posted above since we don't want to go that route. I will look for a picture and post when I find.
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Post  camprn on 4/15/2014, 10:55 am

@jewlz2121 wrote:They are most def bees.  I want to deter them from our back yard so we can be outside without them bothering us.  They hover around the back deck and my mailbox, but I have yet to see a burrow.  I have no idea if it was a he or a she that stung us last year, but it was not provoked.  My son was swinging in a baby swing...the bee crawled into his shirt and stung him 5 times.  I was stung once.  My husband has started practicing with a racket on them, it has helped control population a little.  I saw the neighbor spraying pesticide at the ones in his yard.  I will have to show him the trap posted above since we don't want to go that route.   I will look for a picture and post when I find.
This doesn't sound like bee behavior. This sounds like wasps, they can sting multiple times. Individual hornets can sting multiple times; unlike typical bees, hornets and wasps do not die after stinging because their stingers are not barbed and are not pulled out of their bodies.Of course swinging at them will provoke them to be more aggressive. Please post a photo of the pest so that we may be able to provide appropriate advice.


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Post  Cherbear on 4/15/2014, 11:02 am

Most bees aren't that aggressive. Usually that sort of behaviour is seen with wasps Shocked Most people say bees when what they really mean are wasps. We had quite a few in the community a few years ago following a few mild winters. This winter has been very hard, so maybe there will be   fewer this year.
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Post  jewlz2121 on 4/15/2014, 11:13 am



This is a picture of our bumblebees from last summer.  The carpenter bees we are having trouble with now look just like this, but their butt is black, not yellow.   They hover like little helicopters.  And they dart at anything that moves.  I don't think it is in their nature to sting, but because one did, my little boys are afraid to go outside now.  I would get a picture today, but it's raining and they aren't out.  Although, they never land so it may be hard to get a good picture.  I am SURE they aren't wasps because we have those too.
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Post  jewlz2121 on 4/15/2014, 11:17 am

I realize the likelihood of a carpenter bee stinging again is rare.  But it is so very annoying to have them ram into your head!  And as calm as I have been trying to encourage the boys to get outside again, it is hard for them to understand that this huge buzzing thing chasing them isn't going to hurt them.  I was just trying to get a handle on these chasers.  The bumblebees don't chase and ram into you.
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Post  camprn on 4/15/2014, 11:20 am

At this point I need to suggest you contact your County Co-Operative Extension agent for advice relating you your specific area and problem. This is certainly a situation that is not going to be resolved on this garden forum.

Please let us know what the Agent has to say. I am curious but have no practical applicable advice to your quandary.

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/15/2014, 5:06 pm

My bet is hornets
I 've enjoyed multiple encounters with them over the past 30 years.
Basketball size nest, it was fun till I grew old enough I wasnt able to jump off the ladder any more.
One nest developed on my porch ceiling, I let it go till it got out of hand.
Placed a lamp (unlit) close the the nest, ran an extension chord to turn it on..
Filled a 2 gallon sprayer with a strong solution of 7.
I was able to spray em from 20 feet away.
That got em, they came out of the nest and went for the light as I sprayed away.
One year I got a nest from a neighbor, it was twice the size of a basketball, after it was all over I opened it up.
Sliced down the middle and found all stages of hornets being fed and growing, quite interesting creatures.
I just dont want them near me.
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Post  H_TX_2 on 4/15/2014, 6:12 pm

I have no idea how effective it would be but maybe someone here might know. Would it be possible to line the deck or patio ceiling with misting type hose? Will these big bees, hornets or whatever they are still fly around under the mist?
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