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Post  moswell on 6/18/2014, 4:31 pm

Well, I haven't really done SFG for about a year and a half because I moved for a new job, and then knew I was going to be buying my own house within two years, so I didn't want to do all the setup, mess up the rental house's backyard (garden over grass, etc) just to have to pull up stake and start all over again in a new place.  I've stuck to tomatoes and peppers in pots instead.

But, I'm hopefully closing on a house in July.  It has a big, sunny, beautiful backyard and I've got a perfect spot in which to put my dream SFG.  My question is: should I dig up/remove in some way, all the grass in that spot before I put down SFG?  Is it worth the time to do that for a long-term garden?  Do you put down pavers first?


I figure I've got some time to pull it all together.  I want to have at least some of the garden ready to go in the fall for shallots.  I'm so happy to be able to do a full garden again, I've really missed it!

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Post  mollyhespra on 6/18/2014, 5:33 pm

Congrats on your new home!!!

I can share what we did in our SFG (you can see pics here: http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t13893-big-plans-for-spring-2013)

We didn't bother with removing the sod.  IIRC, we just laid weedcloth over the existing grass and put the boxes on top of that-- then when we decided we had better put down hardware cloth under the beds, we took the weedcloth off and just put cardboard down with the hardware cloth over all.  By then the weeds were mostly dead anyway.  We haven't had any problems with stuff growing up through the cardboard.

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Post  Kelejan on 6/18/2014, 5:52 pm

Congrats, moswell, on your new home and your garden to be.  How exciting it must be to get a dream location and to start afresh, and you have had time to plan and now have time to get started.
Let us have pics before you start a thing, however overgrown or untidy it may be.
I will keep my fingers crossed that you are able to close on this new house in time to start SFGing. 
When moving, just open enough to start living in your home and concentrate on the garden. You have all winter to do things inside. Good luck on the house.

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Post  sanderson on 6/18/2014, 6:09 pm

@Kelejan wrote:Congrats, Moswell, on your new home and your garden to be.  How exciting it must be to get a dream location and to start afresh, and you have had time to plan and now have time to get started.
Let us have pics before you start a thing, however overgrown or untidy it may be.
+1 I'm excited for you!

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Post  moswell on 6/18/2014, 10:40 pm

Thanks guys!  I'll try to get a picture this weeked.  It's a big sunny space behind the garage that I want to use for the garden because it's easily fenced off to keep the doggie out (even though she does kill moles for me).  It's not overgrown with weeds at this point - it's just grass covered, fortunately.

I think my max garden size will be 3 4x4 boxes.  I'm single, and can't imagine being able to eat more than that.  One box for overwintering garlic and shallots, a second for summer vegetables, and a third for herbs and spring veggies (rotating to prevent blight from tomatoes).

Oh, and I may grow hops at some point. Smile

I also need to go back to the place and see where the closest spigot is.

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Post  Kelejan on 6/18/2014, 11:57 pm

Have you figured out North South East West?

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Post  moswell on 6/19/2014, 11:11 am

@Kelejan wrote:Have you figured out North South East West?
Yes.  Here's a picture of the yard from overhead.  The house faces due south.

THe part I want to block off for gardening is right behind the garage.


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Post  Kelejan on 6/19/2014, 12:10 pm

That's excellent. You will get many hours of sunshine. Would that all houses were built with that orientation. 

I am just a little envious, but not jealous.  When we bought our house we had no choice as it was the only one we could afford after coming back from bankruptcy.
After living here now for 18 years I would not change it and taking down some old trees has given me more space and sunlight and a new lease of life in the garden.
My land is 100 x 500 feet with the house and yard standing in the corner of the first 100 x 100 which is fairly flat, leaving a 100 x 400 north facing hill behind me.  On the west side is a twenty foot tall cedar hedge that is within three feet of my wall and denies me any morning sun and on the right side my neighbour gets all the sun.
Just complaining.  Very Happy  But it is my HOME.

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Post  moswell on 6/19/2014, 12:13 pm

@Kelejan wrote:That's excellent. You will get many hours of sunshine. Would that all houses were built with that orientation. 

I am just a little envious, but not jealous.  When we bought our house we had no choice as it was the only one we could afford after coming back from bankruptcy.
After living here now for 18 years I would not change it and taking down some old trees has given me more space and sunlight and a new lease of life in the garden.
My land is 100 x 500 feet with the house and yard standing in the corner of the first 100 x 100 which is fairly flat, leaving a 100 x 400 north facing hill behind me.  On the west side is a twenty foot tall cedar hedge that is within three feet of my wall and denies me any morning sun and on the right side my neighbour gets all the sun.
Just complaining.  Very Happy  But it is my HOME.

Very Happy I understand.  There are some things I am complaining about with the house I'm about to buy, don't worry.  And I'm thinking I'd like to plant a couple smaller trees in the backyard, maybe a fruit tree and a dwarf Japanese maple.  But yes, lots of gorgeous sun!

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