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Re: New England July 2014

Post  NHGardener on 7/28/2014, 7:57 am

Sanderson - Are home gardeners having any problems with water shortages?
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Post  cpl100 on 7/28/2014, 11:06 am

We got about a flash floods worth of water this morning---over 3 inches in my buckets!
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Post  sanderson on 7/28/2014, 12:14 pm

NHG, I'm on City water so I pay for what I use that is in excess of the base line. I would be paying through the nose if I didn't use wood chip mulch over the Mel's Mix.

I'm always complaining about water in the Northern California Regional Topic.
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Re: New England July 2014

Post  NHGardener on 7/28/2014, 4:20 pm

Okay, I was curious about this so I googled it. I performed SVB operations on 2 of my pumpkin plants today - there were slits in the root right where it goes into the soil, so you know what that means. I took a steak knife and performed an incision and probably did irrevocable damage. But I know I've heard that vine plants will keep rooting along the vine, and that is a hope. So I looked it up, and vines will send out roots at the blossom points. One person I read online said they cover their vines as they grow just to encourage rooting mainly for SVB issues. The more root points, the more options the plant has. I don't know if it's too late to cover mine at this point, but it's a thought to keep in mind for the future.
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Re: New England July 2014

Post  RJARPCGP on 7/28/2014, 4:57 pm

T-storm time! My hibiscus already got a drink this morning! It's definitely gonna bloom soon!

The Doppler radar shows hardly a thing, but still getting T-bolts!
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Post  camprn on 7/28/2014, 5:07 pm

F2 tornado this morning in Revere, MA.

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Post  RJARPCGP on 7/28/2014, 5:09 pm

@camprn wrote:F2 tornado this morning in Revere, MA.
Like the July 3, 1997 Crotched Mountain tornado! Trees were decimated! At least 1 or a couple mini sheds were knocked over and thus some bikes fell out.

Wasn't the June 1, 2011 tornado an EF3? (In Springfield, Ma or nearby)
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Post  CapeCoddess on 7/28/2014, 5:23 pm

NGH, I did that surgery last year on a bunch of plants but it was too little too late.  They died.  But the two I operated on this past weekend still look ok so far. 

I've planted lots of seeds for fall over the past week.  Hope it's not too early.
So far there's sugar & snow peas, 3 varieties of carrots, radishes, beets, scallions, lettuce, chives & 2 types of kale.  Also put in 2 more rows of bush beans, 2 control Molly seeds, cukes, jalapenos, 3 purple pole beans that our handyman gave us & I tossed some tomato seeds around for next years volunteers.  Wink 
I'm holding off for a week or 2 on the pak choi, collards, cabbage & remaining lettuces.

The radishes, peas & beans came up in 3 days. The carrots took a week:
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Dog vomit...that's just wude: 
  

Meanwhile, I continue to battle the 4 yellow jacket nests.  Yesterday I blended up some grapefruit peels and poured it on them.  They were hopping mad!
But in a cuter note, this humble bumble looks like he's doing downward facing dog:
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Have you folks planted for fall yet?  hungry 

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Re: New England July 2014

Post  CapeCoddess on 7/28/2014, 6:43 pm

RJ, I have hibiscus, too. Are we counting Rose of Sharon as hibiscus? If so there are two double white Rose of Sharon here and one mallow hibiscus called "Fireball". Both Rose of Sharon are blooming already and have lots of babies below them but need pulling. The Fireball has buds but, like yours, has no blooms yet.


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Post  RJARPCGP on 7/28/2014, 8:09 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:RJ, I have hibiscus, too. Are we counting Rose of Sharon as hibiscus? If so there are two double white Rose of Sharon here and one mallow hibiscus called "Fireball". Both Rose of Sharon are blooming already and have lots of babies below them but need pulling. The Fireball has buds but, like yours, has no blooms yet.


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Re: New England July 2014

Post  NHGardener on 7/28/2014, 8:46 pm

I don't think there's any getting around the SVB. I think the best hope is to bury the vines and let them form multiple root points...

Way to go, CC, on your fall planting! I've never done fall plantings. I probably should pull out the snap peas and plant new ones, then? I could probably pull out the broccoli and put something else there because I've seen too many cabbage worms, etc. on them and yuck, they're not very pretty anymore anyway. Spinach and lettuce have bolted long ago, so I could probably put something there. I should pull the garlic so that's a 4x8 bed.

I was thinking of planting a green manure crop in the beds when they're done. Oats is a good one because at frost it dies and it won't resurrect, but will leave the debris behind as mulch. But I guess you'd have to plant that before too long in order for it to grow before frost. (I have oat seed.) Another good green manure is winter rye, but that will turn to seed in the spring so that could be a problem. The thing I like about planting green manure in there is it will enrich the soil plus the growth will make mulch.

I just found this youtube video on using oats in what looks like a raised bed overwinter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_l5d4STkE

(I think you can find a youtube video on just about anything imaginable)
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Re: New England July 2014

Post  NHGardener on 7/28/2014, 9:30 pm

Here's one more fairly informative youtube video on cover crops for raised beds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkp6HiNIzwo
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Re: New England July 2014

Post  quiltbea on 7/29/2014, 12:26 pm

I planted winter rye in half of my beds one year and would never do it again.  The plants came on strong again in early spring and I had a difficult time digging them up and turning them over for green compost. 

I picked one Patio tomato (3 oz and red) today and one Patio Snacker cucumber (5" long) from my pots this morning.  Nice ones.  They'll make do for salad tonite.


Total rain in the last 4 days is 3.7" so I won't have to hand water for a few days.  Should clear off today.  We even had a tornado warning yesterday just west of us but only a small one and short timer in the woods across the lake so no damage.
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Re: New England July 2014

Post  cpl100 on 7/29/2014, 2:46 pm

Has anyone planted Broccoli Raab (rapini)?  I can't find it in the SFG book.  The package state Spring and states time your plantings to mature while the weather is cool.  The harvest is in 65 days.  Says seed spacing is 2".   

Would you say it's okay to plant it now or soon?  And would you use the 2" spacing?

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Re: New England July 2014

Post  Marc Iverson on 7/29/2014, 8:17 pm

Just planted some yesterday. No experience with any kind of broccoli though.

Planting in spring and timing plantings to mature when the weather is cool sounds like contradictory information, at least with such a short time to maturity.
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Post  mollyhespra on 7/29/2014, 9:40 pm

I planted some Broccoli Raab last year. The plants turned out to be small-ish, but I think I did 1/square, just because I wasn't sure of the spacing. If I were to plant some again, I think I'd do 4/square max (and that would be pushing it).
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Re: New England July 2014

Post  Marc Iverson on 7/30/2014, 1:51 am

My seed packet recommended 3 seeds every four to six inches, if I recall correctly, and then thinning down to one. I did them one better and planted way more squares than I think I'll want to use, and I'll replace any dud squares with something else.
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Re: New England July 2014

Post  NHGardener on 7/30/2014, 7:25 am

What do you use broccoli raab for? I see it has a slightly pungent flavor, I don't guess you cook that alone like broccoli.
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Post  NHGardener on 7/30/2014, 10:07 am

Anybody else starting to get a little nervous about these polar air mass temperature dips? Not complaining about the lack of intense heat, but hope it resolves by winter...
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Post  camprn on 7/30/2014, 11:10 am

@NHGardener wrote:Anybody else starting to get a little nervous about these polar air mass temperature dips? Not complaining about the lack of intense heat, but hope it resolves by winter...
It feels absolutely wonderful ESPECIALLY the lower dew points. No worries here.

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Post  camprn on 7/30/2014, 11:11 am

@NHGardener wrote:What do you use broccoli raab for? I see it has a slightly pungent flavor, I don't guess you cook that alone like broccoli.
Eating. Steamed or lightly sauteed.

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Post  cpl100 on 7/30/2014, 11:23 am

@NHGardener wrote:What do you use broccoli raab for? I see it has a slightly pungent flavor, I don't guess you cook that alone like broccoli.
You can use it many ways but most times it is best to blanch it for two minutes prior to sauteing if you are going that route.  You can also serve it with pesto alone or also throw it in the pot with your pasta and then use pesto with it.  I also have a fantastic recipe for sausage and rapini soup.

It can be bitter if just sauteed.

Thanks for the assist on how many to put in a square.  I will try to plant some this week when it is not too bright outside (for my eyes with the concussion, not the seed's benefit!).  Wish I could do more for my garden but that just isn't going to happen now.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 7/30/2014, 1:19 pm

@NHGardener wrote:Anybody else starting to get a little nervous about these polar air mass temperature dips? Not complaining about the lack of intense heat, but hope it resolves by winter...
I'm LOVING this weather except for the drought part. It feels like a normal Cape Cod summer to me. But one of my neighbors, a Cape native gardener in her 80's, says that the birds in our area are starting to head south earlier than usual.
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Post  cpl100 on 7/30/2014, 1:54 pm

NO!  Not an early Winter!  I am missing out on Summer as it is!   Sad
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Post  RJARPCGP on 7/30/2014, 3:46 pm

Just poured dish detergent near the base of my hibiscus plant, because of tiny ants.

Something's been munching on the leaves!
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