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Re: Swiss Chard

Post  quiltbea on 12/10/2014, 10:43 pm

I googled and found this info re: pests on chard:

Row covers will solve problems with other insects such as grasshoppers or cabbage moths, which will on occasion eat chard.

Snails and slugs will chew holes in chard leaves and grooves in the ribs. Over-watering will encourage them to snack on your chard, so let the soil dry out before you water. Trap them, hand pick and dispose of, use an iron phosphate based slug control product, or surround your chard plants with crushed eggshells.

Aphids and leaf miners are problems for chard as well.
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Post  dstack on 12/11/2014, 5:38 am

Considering that grasshoppers, slugs, and snails are not an issue in my garden, I bet it's the cabbage moth. The aphids and leaf miners in my garden prefer other things that I'm growing because they aren't bothering my chard. And that's great to know about the over watering.  Thanks Quiltbea!
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Re: Swiss Chard

Post  camprn on 12/11/2014, 10:28 am

that happens to mine too. not sure what it is, I always thought it was slug damage...


if you know it's not
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snails
grasshoppers
and most probably not cabbage worms


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time to breakout the Game Cam.

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Post  dstack on 12/11/2014, 11:19 am

@camprn wrote:that happens to mine too. not sure what it is, I always thought it was slug damage...


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time to breakout the Game Cam.
lol!
I'm glad to know that I'm not alone with this problem.  And I'm in great company with Sanderson!  

I'll try watering less, and maybe fertilizing less.
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Post  sanderson on 12/11/2014, 11:34 am

My current chard/kale/cabbage are the first without the moth and cabbage worms. That's due to the tulle enclosure. However, sow bugs have also snacked on my veggies this summer, them and snails, slugs, spider mites, grasshoppers. Note, I had a cabbage worm on one of my cantaloupe leaves! Maybe it was her equivalent of giving birth in a taxi. Just couldn't hold it any longer.
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Post  has55 on 12/11/2014, 1:09 pm

dstack, it looks like cabbage worm damage. But you damage is light. Usually you can find a dark round feces/increment underneath the leaf. Rarely on top till the infestation is heavy, then you'll also see the deveining.  But the problem is when they are babies you may not find it, because the increment is so small. look for a extremely green caterpillar that matches the color of the swiss chard. Sometimes you can find it alone the vein/stem. early in the morning is a good time or a few hours after dark. but you live in florida, so be careful at night, the caterpillar you see may be an anaconda.Wink just teasing. 
if you can't find them, a simple spray of BT and see if the damage stops.

It also looks like you have something else going on, but I can't think of the name. I'm talking about the white specks. They are not the cause of the chewing damage. can anyone help with the ID?
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Post  Marc Iverson on 12/11/2014, 1:43 pm

Snails and slugs were not an issue in one of my gardens this year either, but they are now. I've found and squished both even in the middle of the day. And the damage they do looks exactly like the holes in your leaves there.

A problem, when I've had slugs before elsewhere, is that putting out Sluggo Plus helps, but the rains quickly wash it away. And it is expensive as heck. I only seem to need it during the season in which the rains make sure I can't keep it.
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Post  camprn on 12/11/2014, 1:45 pm

dstack, try a board trap overnight and see what you find in the morning.

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Post  sanderson on 12/11/2014, 1:49 pm

@camprn wrote:dstack, try a board trap overnight and see what you find in the morning.
Good idea.

Marc, I use baby food jars on their sides, pointing slightly downward so the rain doesn't get in.
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Post  has55 on 12/11/2014, 1:54 pm

sanderson, please forgive my ignorance, but this is the place to asked naive question, What are you doing with the jars? putting sluggo in it or just using tilted jars for the slugs to climb into it?
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Post  camprn on 12/11/2014, 1:55 pm

I still eat the chard if it's not looking perfectly blemish free. Wink

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Post  has55 on 12/11/2014, 2:00 pm

@camprn wrote:I still eat the chard if it's not looking perfectly blemish free. Wink
Me too, not the wife. It's has to be perfect. I say, I once I put it in my mouth and chew it to smithereens it won't make a difference or when I create a smoothie.
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Post  dstack on 12/11/2014, 2:06 pm

@has55 wrote:
@camprn wrote:I still eat the chard if it's not looking perfectly blemish free. Wink
Me too, not the wife. It's has to be perfect. I say, I once I put it in my mouth and chew it to smithereens it won't make a difference or when I create a smoothie.
I agree.  But there's not much left on some of these leaves.   affraid
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Post  dstack on 12/11/2014, 2:08 pm

@camprn wrote:dstack, try a board trap overnight and see what you find in the morning.

Yes, I'm still a newbie in some ways of gardening.  What is a board trap Camprn?  Sticky paper?
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Post  camprn on 12/11/2014, 2:22 pm

@dstack wrote:
@camprn wrote:dstack, try a board trap overnight and see what you find in the morning.

Yes, I'm still a newbie in some ways of gardening.  What is a board trap Camprn?  Sticky paper?

Eh, no.

It's a board.

Lay a small board across the surface of the bed in the evening, perhaps after watering.

In the morning after the sun rises flip the board over. If there are any slugs or snails that have taken refuge under there you can simply scrape them off the board.


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Post  dstack on 12/11/2014, 2:33 pm

@camprn wrote:
@dstack wrote:
@camprn wrote:dstack, try a board trap overnight and see what you find in the morning.

Yes, I'm still a newbie in some ways of gardening.  What is a board trap Camprn?  Sticky paper?

Eh, no.

It's a board.

Lay a small board across the surface of the bed in the evening, perhaps after watering.

In the morning after the sun rises flip the board over. If there are any slugs or snails that have taken refuge under there you can simply scrape them off the board.

I've never found a slug in my garden, and I've never found a live snail in my SFG boxes. It's too much work for them to crawl up the tabletop cinder blocks. (Not to mention all of the river rock in the pathways around.the boxes.) But I can tell you exactly what I'll find... guaranteed... Millipedes!  I have lots of them in my soil crawling all over.  They occasionally nibble on new seedlings, but have never been a huge issue.  They come up to the surface of the soil more so at night, and they are probably what is eating them. I've dismissed this possibility in the past because if they like something I normally see them on it. Occasionally I find them on a cuke leaf, but I've never seen a millipede on my chard. Perhaps they only like it for their midnight snacks.
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Post  camprn on 12/11/2014, 2:52 pm

@dstack wrote:
@camprn wrote:
@dstack wrote:
@camprn wrote:dstack, try a board trap overnight and see what you find in the morning.

Yes, I'm still a newbie in some ways of gardening.  What is a board trap Camprn?  Sticky paper?

Eh, no.

It's a board.

Lay a small board across the surface of the bed in the evening, perhaps after watering.

In the morning after the sun rises flip the board over. If there are any slugs or snails that have taken refuge under there you can simply scrape them off the board.

I've never found a slug in my garden, and I've never found a live snail in my SFG boxes. It's too much work for them to crawl up the tabletop cinder blocks. (Not to mention all of the river rock in the pathways around.the boxes.) But I can tell you exactly what I'll find... guaranteed... Millipedes!  I have lots of them in my soil crawling all over.  They occasionally nibble on new seedlings, but have never been a huge issue.  They come up to the surface of the soil more so at night, and they are probably what is eating them. I've dismissed this possibility in the past because if they like something I normally see them on it. Occasionally I find them on a cuke leaf, but I've never seen a millipede on my chard. Perhaps they only like it for their midnight snacks.

Alright then. Clearly it's game cam time, or stop wondering what's eatin' the chard, eh?

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Post  sanderson on 12/11/2014, 3:10 pm

Dstack, Wood board or heavy piece of cardboard. You have to give it a try. You may be surprised what crawls up under them. Very Happy You have rain basically all year around, correct.
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Post  jimmy cee on 12/11/2014, 4:16 pm

Seriously
I am considering setting up a video cam on my beds, set to play all night (dark hours )
I have an outlet just feet away to supply power.
If I can set to a hard drive on my computer in a slow mode, wouldn't that be quite the viewing. ???
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Post  sanderson on 12/11/2014, 5:49 pm

Jimmy, Imagine watching 8 hour's worth of night activity in the beds. sawing logs But it could be really interesting if it can be sped up?
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Post  Kelejan on 12/11/2014, 6:03 pm

@sanderson wrote:Jimmy, Imagine watching 8 hour's worth of night activity in the beds.   sawing logs   But it could be really interesting if it can be sped up?

I think that's what jimmy said/meant, record in slow mode, not play in slow mode.
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Post  has55 on 12/11/2014, 7:15 pm

LOL
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Post  Marc Iverson on 12/12/2014, 1:53 am

@sanderson wrote:
@camprn wrote:dstack, try a board trap overnight and see what you find in the morning.
Good idea.

Marc, I use baby food jars on their sides, pointing slightly downward so the rain doesn't get in.

I remember you saying that and my thinking it was a really good tip. Now if I could only remember what I remembered without people reminding me to remember it, I wouldn't have so much trouble remembering stuff worth remembering.
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Post  sanderson on 12/12/2014, 2:38 am

Marc, I will take a photo and that will help you remember to remember what I told you to remember. Okay.
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