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Post  TSHRED on 1/18/2015, 10:12 am

I don't have a propagation station set up yet so my first planting will be store bought seedlings and seeds directly in the beds.

Some plants will need to be planted from seed directly in the beds because they don't like to be transplanted. Carrots comes to mind. Any others? It's been a while since I've gardened.

Also is there a chart or article on a plan to stagger your crop planting for year round harvesting. 2 weeks? 3 weeks? Does it depend on the plant?

My zone is pretty much year round except the warm veggies.
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/18/2015, 1:25 pm

Beans & corn like direct seeding.

Plan on every couple of weeks for continuous harvests.  Also look to see if they are cold lovers or heat lovers.
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Post  Turan on 1/18/2015, 1:38 pm

I am assuming you are within a couple miles of the coast.  When I lived on Clarement Mesa (my first SFG in 1983) I raised most things year round.  Eggplant and tomatoes lived a couple years.  Peas cabbage could not handle the summer and were planted in the fall.  Buy your tomatoes and eggplant broccoli cabbage plants this year.  Most everything else (squash, greens, beans, peas) will like it better if planted direct.  You can loosely cover them to make that square warmer (but not too hot, do not solarize by mistake).

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Post  TSHRED on 1/18/2015, 2:12 pm

@Turan wrote:I am assuming you are within a couple miles of the coast.  When I lived on Clarement Mesa (my first SFG in 1983) I raised most things year round.  Eggplant and tomatoes lived a couple years.  Peas cabbage could not handle the summer and were planted in the fall.  Buy your tomatoes and eggplant broccoli cabbage plants this year.  Most everything else (squash, greens, beans, peas) will like it better if planted direct.  You can loosely cover them to make that square warmer (but not too hot, do not solarize by mistake).

About a half a mile from the coast. Between Pacific Coast HWY 101 and the Interstate 5 freeway. Peppers and such are a bit tough to grow in my backyard if not impossible. Not quite hot and sunny enough.

I was thinking I'd buy the lettuce, spinach, and kale also.
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Post  Turan on 1/18/2015, 2:47 pm

Spinach and lettuce are not real happy being transplanted.  Kale is like cabbage and broccoli, does great transplanted.

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Post  TSHRED on 1/18/2015, 3:15 pm

@Turan wrote:Spinach and lettuce are not real happy being transplanted.  Kale is like cabbage and broccoli, does great transplanted.

Thanks for that tip.
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Post  slimbolen99 on 1/18/2015, 3:39 pm

I've transplanted lettuces' very successfully; the key it seems to me, is to make sure they get plenty big in your seed starting setup, and when you plant them, to water them very well initially.  Leave them undisturbed for at least a week, and they bounce back well.  Now, that's just my experience, so it may differ.
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Post  Turan on 1/18/2015, 4:02 pm

There is a difference between a pony pack of greens from the store and that which we start ourselves.  The store stuff is usually over grown and the transplant shock makes it bolt.  The coastal SanDeigo area should be about perfect lettuce and spinach and other greens seeded out right now.  

I am hoping that some people from this region pipe up.  I left it 30 years ago.  I loved gardening there.  Three year old tomato and eggplants plants that never stopped producing...  Chard that also produced for years with out bolting.  30 pumpkins from one plant that grew through the fence and down the canyon wall above I-5.  Rosemary hedges and bay trees and loquats and oranges and....  I am getting all nostalgic and sentimental.  Rolling Eyes

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Post  sanderson on 1/18/2015, 4:40 pm

This from Northern Cal where something can be grown each month of the year, just not all plants for all months because of freeze snap and scorching heat wave. I've never had transplant shock, but I am very gentle with them, and don't plant in the heat without good shade protection. In fact, in the heat waves (100+*F) everything but squashes, cucumbers, cantaloupes, corn, beans and tomatoes are under shade.

You will learn what you can buy in pony packs, what does best direct seeded and what you want to grow in seed pots because it's just darn fun and rewarding, or can only be purchased in seed packets in your area. Very Happy
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