Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by sanderson Today at 3:42 am

» Tomato Questions
by sanderson Today at 3:32 am

» A really, really Frugal Gardener
by sanderson Today at 3:30 am

» Howdy, from Central Florida
by sanderson Today at 3:29 am

» Today's Harvest
by sanderson Today at 3:27 am

» Worm bin?
by sanderson Today at 3:24 am

» Biochar?
by No_Such_Reality Today at 12:30 am

» Compost pit?
by No_Such_Reality Today at 12:05 am

» Coffee Substitute?
by No_Such_Reality Yesterday at 11:51 pm

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing in October 2017
by Mimi2 Yesterday at 7:33 pm

» N & C Midwest: October 2017!
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 7:20 pm

» BOOK GIVEAWAY - ENDS 10/20/17
by brianj555 Yesterday at 11:20 am

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 10:55 am

» Sowing Experiment! Anyone Tried This?
by brianj555 Yesterday at 10:36 am

» Spaghetti Squash ?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 10:28 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver 10/21/2017, 5:34 pm

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by yolos 10/21/2017, 5:16 pm

» Frames for SFG Beds - Versitile PVC frames for Protection
by sanderson 10/21/2017, 4:10 pm

» California's Drought
by AtlantaMarie 10/21/2017, 10:04 am

» Hello from a 7b zone
by AtlantaMarie 10/21/2017, 10:00 am

» Newbie from Ayrshire, West Coast of Scotland
by plantoid 10/21/2017, 7:27 am

» Butterfly Junction
by sanderson 10/21/2017, 12:08 am

» Mels book
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 11:54 pm

» Any Strange and Wonderful Visitors? Photos please!
by countrynaturals 10/20/2017, 11:34 am

» My Compost Bin
by SQWIB 10/20/2017, 7:36 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 3:38 am

» A great offer for a local SFG,er
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 3:07 am

» Hello from Gilbert, AZ
by LizDTM 10/20/2017, 12:21 am

» How to Grow Better Tomatoes
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:59 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:54 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

shade cloth question

View previous topic View next topic Go down

shade cloth question

Post  kbachli on 3/13/2015, 9:16 pm

Can anyone give me guidance on when to use a shade cloth?  Do you shade your plants when it reaches a certain temp, and if so, what temp?  Once we reach the hottest time of the year, do you leave it on all the time?  Or do you take it off for periods to give the plants some direct sun?  Any advice appreciated.  Thanks!
avatar
kbachli

Female Posts : 16
Join date : 2015-02-05
Location : Palm Desert, CA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  sanderson on 3/14/2015, 2:58 am

I can narrow it down to 2 general guides. #1 -When it hits 100*F, the shade material goes up. Anything potted goes into shady areas. #2 - protection from the western sun is my priority. The morning sun, before the day heats up, is okay.

Plants can be like people. When it is hot, we don't like to do much. Keep hydrated. Cover the soil with mulch to keep the soil cool and reduce evaporation. The plants may not set fruit (tomatoes, eggplants, peppers, etc.) but they will survive and start to produce again when it drops under 100*F. Other crops just aren't appropriate in the hot summers. Lettuce, bok choy, coles will bolt (produce flowers). That's the end of them. They are better California winter crops. I hope this helps.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14797
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  kbachli on 3/14/2015, 4:58 pm

Yes, that helps a lot.  Thanks!
avatar
kbachli

Female Posts : 16
Join date : 2015-02-05
Location : Palm Desert, CA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts on 3/14/2015, 6:56 pm

I have used two methods to shade my gardens, one is using used recycled sheer curtains which shade very nicely without blocking a lot of uv light.  Then for my greenhouse, I bought a commercial shade cloth that is white but blocks 30% of the sun and kept my greenhouse within 5-10 degrees of the outside temps.

Both work very well and when you're over 95-100 the plants really enjoy the break from the sun just like we do :-)
avatar
audrey.jeanne.roberts

Posts : 1918
Join date : 2012-12-07
Location : Central Calif Mtns.

View user profile http://audreyjeanne-roberts.artistwebsites.com

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  Mikesgardn on 3/14/2015, 7:59 pm

Both my wife and I work, so nobody is home to water the garden during the day.  In the middle of the summer here in Maryland, my plants will wilt if they don't get a mid-day watering.  Since I can't do that, I use shade cloth.   That keeps the plants from wilting until I get home and water them.
avatar
Mikesgardn

Male Posts : 219
Join date : 2010-03-09
Age : 55
Location : Elkridge, MD (zone 7a)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

My shade cloth usage

Post  crankyoldman on 3/15/2015, 5:59 pm

I use a shade cloth that is supposed to be 60% to 70% sun blocking. Here in Phoenix I do not deploy it until the temps go above 95F, once they do I leave it deployed until temps drop back below the mid 90's and on cloudy days (not many of those here in Phoenix). I believe the 60
% to 70% sun block rating of the shade cloth is high as my plants grow well under it and I can feel the intense sun while standing in the shade.
avatar
crankyoldman

Posts : 12
Join date : 2014-07-14
Location : Phoenix, AZ

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  brainchasm on 3/16/2015, 5:09 pm

I tried shade cloth last year in Las Vegas, and honestly didn't see much difference.

Things like tomatoes are working off ambient temps as far as I can tell - if it's 95 out, then it's 95 - they aren't gonna set fruit.

Also, shading melons and peppers and other heat-loving plants just pissed them off.

Consistent watering was much more effective in keeping my plants happy. Smile  But again, this was just my experience.

(in other news, my radishes are bolting, of all things, hahah)

____________________________

I think my sunflower plant can take me in a fair fight...it's taller than me, and it keeps giving me dirty looks. Shocked

My garden progress:
MyFolia.com - Garden Tracking Community Find more about Weather in Las Vegas, NV
avatar
brainchasm

Male Posts : 463
Join date : 2013-02-26
Age : 41
Location : Las Vegas, NV

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  Kelejan on 3/16/2015, 7:44 pm

I believe that plants wilting is their way of surviving the heat until the sun sets.  Their roots should be deep into the soil. Maybe that is why it is better to soak thoroughly rather than water every day.

Has anyone experience of not being able to water one day, or more? How long can plants survive without watering?

Anyone prepared to sacrifice a plant or two?
avatar
Kelejan

Female Posts : 4971
Join date : 2011-04-24
Age : 82
Location : Castlegar, British Columbia

View user profile http://www.castlegarinkspot.ca

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  jkahn2eb on 7/28/2015, 11:58 am

I just posted that I have seeds sprouting under the shade cloth that planting guides say shouldn't occur.  When I see temps about to hit 100 the cloth goes up.  When I see 100 is basically done the cloth comes down.  4 months of the circus tent down here in Phx.

I may not get fruits setting but as soon as temps drop, everything that stayed alive (tomatoes) has a huge fall crop.
avatar
jkahn2eb

Posts : 257
Join date : 2011-01-13
Location : Gilbert, AZ, Zone 9B

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  jimmy cee on 7/28/2015, 2:16 pm

@ pictures below show my success with a complete covering the entire season. I started when adding plants and sowed seeds direct. I will maintain one bed with a cover forever.  I started late, cold weather, and I wasn't able to well maintain my beds this season. My kohlrabi came up nicely, broccoli as well, however a little sparse. all herbs did and doing well, I planted way to much, did that for experiments. One surprising item is the way celery is growing, it's doing nicely, smelling delicious, can't wait to pick it..
I started this in beginning and since I have found a cover that's very durable I am sticking with it for non pollinating plants. Some issues with sow bugs, milipedes, and earwigs, will tend to them as time allows.

By the way.. I was away for 6 days and no rain, beds only used moisture retained my Mel's Mix..

avatar
jimmy cee

Certified SFG Instructor

Male Posts : 1925
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 81
Location : Indiana PA....zone 5

View user profile http://www.jcjigs.com

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  sanderson on 7/28/2015, 3:57 pm

Yep.  Can't wait.  

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14797
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  Marc Iverson on 7/28/2015, 6:48 pm

Even if shade cloth can't change temperature enough for things like tomatoes to fruit when it's just too hot, if it can prevent sun scorch on leaves or fruits, that's still very valuable. I get a lotta scorched veggies where I live.
avatar
Marc Iverson

Male Posts : 3638
Join date : 2013-07-05
Age : 56
Location : SW Oregon

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  sanderson on 5/1/2016, 4:27 pm

Bump. Getting close to the time to put up shade cloth in some Regions. There are 47 Threads on Shade!

(I use sheer curtains and 75% shade cloth from Home Depot.)

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14797
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: shade cloth question

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum