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Post  countrynaturals on 7/25/2016, 8:33 pm

@Scorpio Rising wrote:pale Noooooo.  I need to be vigilant.  My baby last year got huge and metamorphosized.  But no way to know after that.
Once they get to the chrysalis stage they should be okay (unless some %^&$ parasite got to them before that). It's the cats that are the most vulnerable. Sad I released two healthy male Monarchs this morning and my passionvine plants are loaded with Gulf Fritillary cats. Very Happy

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 7/25/2016, 10:00 pm

OK, I only saw 3 tonight, but they were in a between stage, kinda hanging attached getting ready to metamorphosize into chrysalis form.  They were a bit shrunkenish.  Fingers crossed.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 7/25/2016, 10:01 pm

@countrynaturals wrote:
@Scorpio Rising wrote:pale Noooooo.  I need to be vigilant.  My baby last year got huge and metamorphosized.  But no way to know after that.
Once they get to the chrysalis stage they should be okay (unless some %^&$ parasite got to them before that). It's the cats that are the most vulnerable. Sad I released two healthy male Monarchs this morning and my passionvine plants are loaded with Gulf Fritillary cats. Very Happy
I love the Frits!  So pretty!

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Post  countrynaturals on 7/27/2016, 11:45 am

I never get tired of watching this process, but I've never been able to get a video nearly as good as this one.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 7/27/2016, 6:51 pm

@countrynaturals wrote:I never get tired of watching this process, but I've never been able to get a video nearly as good as this one.

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Very cool!  Suz, I PM'd you, I have an emergency of sorts!  My cats.... Sad

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Post  hammock gal on 7/28/2016, 9:17 am

I was at a friend's house yesterday, and she has many Rose of Sharon bushes in her yard, and I have never seen so many monarch butterflies in one place...it was amazing! I never knew that this plant attracted them, but they were all over them, as well as other butterflies that I couldn't identify. Seeing that many butterflies at once was quite an experience.

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Post  countrynaturals on 7/28/2016, 11:33 am

@hammock gal wrote:I was at a friend's house yesterday, and she has many Rose of Sharon bushes in her yard, and I have never seen so many monarch butterflies in one place...it was amazing! I never knew that this plant attracted them, but they were all over them, as well as other butterflies that I couldn't identify. Seeing that many butterflies at once was quite an experience.
Oooo! That is awesome.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 7/28/2016, 6:33 pm

Very cool!  Pretty plants, too.

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Post  Kelejan on 7/28/2016, 10:16 pm

I thought that Monarchs only used Milkweed.  Good to know that other plants can cater for them.

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Post  countrynaturals on 7/28/2016, 11:52 pm

@Kelejan wrote:I thought that Monarchs only used Milkweed.  Good to know that other plants can cater for them.
Monarchs will visit and sip from all kinds of flowers, but they only lay their eggs on milkweed. The reason is strictly for defense. Milkweed makes the caterpillars poisonous to predators (like birds).  Razz

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Post  sanderson on 7/29/2016, 3:02 am

That's a problem with mono culture, whether by man or nature. Sad

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 7/29/2016, 7:55 am

True.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/22/2016, 3:43 pm

OK, so heartbreaking early August.  All my cats were either mysteriously disappeared, or parasitized or and died in front of my eyes...pale


So, 2 days ago, see 2 cats on the swamp milkweed.  So cute!  So, although I am in the middle of my colon cleanse for my colonoscopy, I ask my kid to run to Walmart so I can buy a hamper to make a habitat for them!  Yes, it was risky (and it WAS), got the pop up hamper albeit with the stupid closure at the top.  


Took guts, but I cut a hole in the hamper so I could fit the cats stil attached to their branches into the hamper, all about last night 8pm ish....milkweed in water with foil on top so they can't drown....


They are both alive and well today!  Seem healthy, no weirdness to be seen thus far.  They grow so fast!  


The bigger one is crawling around the top of the container....other guy, munching.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/22/2016, 3:46 pm


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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/22/2016, 3:49 pm


Big guy on the leaf at 3 o'clock

Little guy on the bent down leaf near the central branch


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Post  countrynaturals on 8/22/2016, 9:26 pm

When the really big ones crawl away, they're ready to pupate. (When little ones crawl away, they're just lost and need to be put back on their plants.) Good luck with this batch.   (I have at least 50 in the butterfly house now, pigging out. Rolling Eyes)

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/22/2016, 9:42 pm

I was soooo debating whether  or not to bring them in...I usually let nature take error course. But these Beauties are just so cool.  

I have 2 cats in a big 36" hamper with the top taped closed with doubled back tape.  They seem healthy....yay cheers

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Post  sanderson on 8/23/2016, 2:54 am

What a great idea using the pop-up hampers

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Post  countrynaturals on 8/23/2016, 10:53 am

@Scorpio Rising wrote:I was soooo debating whether  or not to bring them in...I usually let nature take error course. But these Beauties are just so cool.  

I have 2 cats in a big 36" hamper with the top taped closed with doubled back tape.  They seem healthy....yay cheers
I hope they're okay. Like you, I've had some heartbreaking disasters. Fingers crossed that your little guys just eat, sleep, and fly. Have you ever watched one form a chrysalis? WOW! That is a fascinating experience. flower You'll know it's going to happen when they crawl up and away and hang in a "J" formation. From then you must watch like a hawk or you'll miss it.

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Post  Kelejan on 8/23/2016, 2:55 pm

@countrynaturals wrote:
@Kelejan wrote:I thought that Monarchs only used Milkweed.  Good to know that other plants can cater for them.
Monarchs will visit and sip from all kinds of flowers, but they only lay their eggs on milkweed. The reason is strictly for defense. Milkweed makes the caterpillars poisonous to predators (like birds).  Razz

Thank goodness for that. Very Happy I have about six milkweed plants surviving in pots. they are about four inches tall but do not seem to be growing very much.

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Post  landarch on 8/23/2016, 6:35 pm

I have a black swallowtail chrysalis that has been attached to a stick for about a month and nothing yet...is there a way I can tell if it's still viable?  One previously went into chrysalis and flew away in about a week.

We found another batch of caterpillars on the carrot leaves and put the largest in a container and it formed a chrysalis within a day...black swallowtails make a really cool harness to hang from. 

I found a monarch caterpillar in the lawn the other day and moved it to a marsh milkweed...it fed for a day or two then disappeared...saw one flying around the butterfly garden last night so I'll just say it was the one.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/23/2016, 9:06 pm

The pop up hamper idea came from Judy McD here. Suz and Judy, you guys gave me the guts to do something.  One of you said "Nature is cruel".  That got me. I got one, not the best opening, (not zip, but rather a swath type thing) but after seeing my first 7 disappear...2 of them parasitized by some kind of fly larvae....

So I intervened.  Felt scary.  But I will post some pics when I can....I cut the 2 milkweed branches the cats were on, brought them inside, had a bowl with water and covered by foil with a couple holes for the milkweed stems.  Stuck the branches into the bowl, and the cats ate, and pooled, and the bigger one made his way up to the top and he fully chrysalisized today.  The smaller guy is at the top now, and scrunching up into that shape.....

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/23/2016, 9:22 pm

Landarch, all you guys, it makes me happy to hear of so many people at least caring about these amazing creatures!  Butterflies are just so....cool.  

A month sounds like too long for your guy to be viable. There are many here with more experience than I.  Usually, 10-14 days in the chrysalis stage.

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Post  countrynaturals on 8/23/2016, 9:29 pm

My only experience with swallowtails is pipevine swallowtails and they can stay in a chrysalis for months. That's how they overwinter. None of the other types hang around here, so I just don't know how long is too long. Embarassed

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/23/2016, 10:16 pm

@countrynaturals wrote:When the really big ones crawl away, they're ready to pupate. (When little ones crawl away, they're just lost and need to be put back on their plants.) Good luck with this batch.   (I have at least 50 in the butterfly house now, pigging out. Rolling Eyes)
How do you feed them all, Suz?  They eat soooo much!

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