Square Foot Gardening Forum

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» So. California & Inland Valleys -March / April Planting Guide
by countrynaturals Today at 11:32 am

» Ground Cherries
by countrynaturals Today at 11:27 am

» My name is boffer, and I'm a juicer.
by RoOsTeR Today at 11:21 am

» Happy Birthday!!
by Kelejan Today at 11:21 am

» How to save ground cherry harvest???
by countrynaturals Today at 11:13 am

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing February 2017?
by Kelejan Today at 10:52 am

» Hello form (near) our nation's capital!
by BeetlesPerSqFt Today at 10:26 am

» Hello from Pottstown, PA
by newbeone Today at 7:46 am

» Senseless Banter...
by CapeCoddess Today at 7:41 am

» Compost for Mel's Mix
by MrBooker Today at 6:16 am

» My Solar Dehydrator at Work
by sanderson Today at 2:11 am

» Advice and Preparations for Sweet Potatoes in Wisconsin
by sanderson Today at 1:25 am

» February 2017 Avatar: Time to Wake Up!
by countrynaturals Today at 12:17 am

» Bare Root Fruit Trees
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 7:13 pm

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania, 3rd year SFG
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 6:12 pm

» Invasive Tree Roots - Very important topic for newbies.
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:25 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:11 pm

» Winter Gardens - Photos
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 12:45 pm

» Turan in the Western Mountains
by Turan Yesterday at 12:23 pm

» Lower South Feb 2017
by ralitaco Yesterday at 11:59 am

» One Very Happy Earthworm!
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:14 am

» My experiences with commercial cedar raised beds
by ralitaco Yesterday at 11:06 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by sanderson Yesterday at 3:18 am

» Cold garage starters
by Ginger Blue 2/24/2017, 8:47 pm

» Butterfly Junction
by BeetlesPerSqFt 2/24/2017, 5:44 pm

» A really, really Frugal Gardener
by CapeCoddess 2/24/2017, 2:22 pm

» New England February 2017
by CapeCoddess 2/24/2017, 1:45 pm

» Spaghetti Squash Recipes
by newbeone 2/24/2017, 9:20 am

» New compost bin and 4x8 cedar bed
by newbeone 2/24/2017, 8:29 am

» N&C Midwest: February 2017
by CitizenKate 2/24/2017, 12:19 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

veggies not ripening

View previous topic View next topic Go down

veggies not ripening

Post  jasony145 on 6/24/2015, 6:34 pm

Hi:
My wife and I started our first SFG this year and we are running into some problems. Specifically our veggies aren't ripening. The tomatos are coing in full force but are remaining green. Our cukes are also growing big but are not turning green. Additionally our green beans have not produced flowers sot they are not producing green beans. I have used Fish Organic fertilizer twice over the last month but have only had success with my squash producing fruit. Everything is growing well and appears to be healthy. What am I missing?

jasony145

Posts : 2
Join date : 2015-06-24
Location : NC

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  Marc Iverson on 6/24/2015, 7:07 pm

First of all, hello and welcome!

Re tomatoes not ripening, they've always seemed kind of unpredictable to me. I'm not sure that's a bad sign.

Re no flowers on the beans, that may be related to something else you bring up -- using fish fertilizer a couple times in a single month. Fish fertilizer, if I recall correctly, tends to be high in nitrogen. That's what you want for leafy green growth. Too much of that can actually impede the progress to setting fruit -- the plant will be happy to instead just grow, grow, grow. For flowering/fruiting, you want more phosphorous-based fertilization, or even no fertilization at all, which sometimes signals to plants they'd better get a move on and produce some seeds if they want to produce another generation.

It's not that fish fertilizers have no phosphorous, either; just that plants often seem to react very strongly to nitrogen and take it as a signal to keep growing.

Note that rapid growth can produce huge but weak, easily broken plants, too, and ones without the root structure to properly feed all their greenery, especially should things suddenly turn hot and dry. or especially windy. Be careful on how frequently you're feeding, especially with high-nitrogen fertilizers. Generally you'll be better served by building up a rich soil than by doing a lot of fertilizing.

Marc Iverson

Male Posts : 3636
Join date : 2013-07-05
Age : 55
Location : SW Oregon

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  jasony145 on 6/24/2015, 9:07 pm

Thanks for your advice... and the welcome. Maybe theyll ripen yet.

jasony145

Posts : 2
Join date : 2015-06-24
Location : NC

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  camprn on 6/24/2015, 9:32 pm

Patience is something the gardener must learn...

And I agree with the over fertilizing comment.

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books




camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14077
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  sanderson on 6/25/2015, 3:35 am

Jasony,  Welcome to the Forum from California!  glad you\'re here

I'm sure most of us have made a mistake, or two, or 20. Embarassed You've already received some replies, so by now you know that the fish fertilizer may be the cause of no fruits.  If you made your SFG Mel's Mix correctly, using 5 sources/types of compost for the 1/3 part of the Mix, the Mix should be nutritious enough for growth and fruiting.  One of the things about Mel's Mix is that you only add more 5-way compost every time you plant from here on.  Some times, a plant will tell you it is a little low in some nutrient and you may have to add that nutrient.  I think most of us use only compost for the nutrition, where it slowly releases the nutrients over time.  From here on, patience.  Maybe half way through the season, top dress with a little more of the compost, especially if it is a crop that grows and produces for a long time.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast

sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 12919
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  yolos on 6/25/2015, 8:27 pm

Tomato fruits take forever and ever to come to the point of harvest.    What variety are you growing and what is the Days to Maturity.  Also, is it in full sun.  I have about  6 tomato varieties that only get about 6 hours sun and they have just been sitting there still green.  I also have the same 6 tomato varieties in another location that gets full sun and they have been ripening for about 3 weeks.

Here is a time line of one variety of tomato.
http://web.archive.org/web/20101218050351/http:/tomatosite.com/index.php?NT=Cultivation&RE=Truss_Timeline

yolos

Female Posts : 2965
Join date : 2011-11-20
Age : 67
Location : Brooks, Ga Zone 7B/8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  Scorpio Rising on 6/25/2015, 9:29 pm

You know, that video is really how it is sometimes with tomatoes...they are the reason most of us want a backyard harvest, there is really nothing like a warm, red mater from the vine.  But they are hinky, and go from good to burst/blight/whatev in a day...but they are still worth the effort in the long run.  Here in north central/nw ohio it takes them forever to fruit and ripen.  Cherry  varieties are more dependable, I always plant one.  

Be patient and see what you get!


Last edited by Scorpio Rising on 6/25/2015, 9:31 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Mult typos)

Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 4180
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  Kelejan on 6/28/2015, 10:06 am

Belated glad you\'re here jasony happy hi 
from Kelejan :canada:

Kelejan

Female Posts : 4686
Join date : 2011-04-24
Age : 82
Location : Castlegar, British Columbia

View user profile http://www.castlegarinkspot.ca

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  sanderson on 6/28/2015, 2:42 pm

And a belated Happy Birthday! birthday

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast

sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 12919
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: veggies not ripening

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum