Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Howdy, from Central Florida
by countrynaturals Today at 4:52 pm

» Coffee Substitute?
by countrynaturals Today at 12:32 pm

» A really, really Frugal Gardener
by countrynaturals Today at 12:28 pm

» BOOK GIVEAWAY - ENDS 10/20/17
by brianj555 Today at 11:20 am

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals Today at 10:55 am

» Today's Harvest
by brianj555 Today at 10:44 am

» Biochar?
by countrynaturals Today at 10:40 am

» Sowing Experiment! Anyone Tried This?
by brianj555 Today at 10:36 am

» Spaghetti Squash ?
by countrynaturals Today at 10:28 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 5:34 pm

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by yolos Yesterday at 5:16 pm

» Worm bin?
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:16 pm

» Frames for SFG Beds - Versitile PVC frames for Protection
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:10 pm

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 3:25 pm

» Tomato Questions
by brianj555 Yesterday at 10:57 am

» California's Drought
by AtlantaMarie Yesterday at 10:04 am

» Hello from a 7b zone
by AtlantaMarie Yesterday at 10:00 am

» Newbie from Ayrshire, West Coast of Scotland
by plantoid Yesterday at 7:27 am

» Butterfly Junction
by sanderson Yesterday at 12:08 am

» Mels book
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 11:54 pm

» N & C Midwest: October 2017!
by Scorpio Rising 10/20/2017, 8:16 pm

» Any Strange and Wonderful Visitors? Photos please!
by countrynaturals 10/20/2017, 11:34 am

» My Compost Bin
by SQWIB 10/20/2017, 7:36 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 3:38 am

» A great offer for a local SFG,er
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 3:07 am

» Hello from Gilbert, AZ
by LizDTM 10/20/2017, 12:21 am

» How to Grow Better Tomatoes
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:59 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:54 pm

» Helpful Beetles
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:45 pm

» Does MM improve with age?
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:41 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

weeds???

View previous topic View next topic Go down

weeds???

Post  iscott123 on 9/2/2015, 8:22 pm

Hello,

This is my first year with SFG. I finally got a chance to pull out some old plants and was getting ready to replenish the soil and start the fall crop. To my surprise, there was a web of roots coming through the weed protection net that I have under the garden. In some parts it was so thick I had trouble getting it out! No wonder my plants were not doing so well. Is this "normal?" Is there anything I can do about it?

Thanks,
Ioana
avatar
iscott123

Posts : 18
Join date : 2015-07-27
Location : Fair Haven, NJ

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  Scorpio Rising on 9/2/2015, 9:26 pm

Hey, iscott, did you use the SFG method, with building boxes, etc.?
avatar
Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 5365
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  camprn on 9/2/2015, 9:56 pm

Yup, I had this problem. Jimmy had this problem. Nasty tree root hairs; they will choke the life out of a garden. I had to elevate all of my beds to be rid of the tree root hairs.

Here is a post from Jimmy about this business. It is no fun at all!!!

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t18651-roots-information?highlight=roots

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14165
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 55
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  sanderson on 9/2/2015, 10:07 pm

Iscott,  Yep, invasive roots can be a real problem.  The Mel's Mix is so nutritious that the roots from bushes or trees will pop through the weed screen like it was tissue paper.  Elevating the boxes off the ground is really the only solution. It's a nasty job but worth it at the end. Here are some more links:

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t17608-roots-roots-roots-really-need-some-help-on-this-one?highlight=roots

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t19451-tree-roots-gone-beds-back-in-business?highlight=tree+roots

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t18622-bed-raising?highlight=bed+raising

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14790
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  Yardslave on 9/3/2015, 12:31 pm

I opted to use a "pro-grade" landscaper's weed barrier on my beds, and it worked for about 4 years until the drought got worse, then I started finding walnut tree roots from the neighbor's yard ( about 60' away!) invading the beds. then a plum tree sent roots from 10' away. The invasion was slow, so I didn't notice what was going on. I had to turn the soil and cut the roots. 
The whole thing could be avoided by keeping the beds off the ground. At least the weed-blocker worked- but isn't impenetrable to thirsty tree roots; I still don't regret using it though.
avatar
Yardslave

Male Posts : 306
Join date : 2012-01-19
Age : 66
Location : Carmel Valley, Ca.

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  sanderson on 9/3/2015, 2:36 pm

Yes, the weed barrier works - for weeds.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14790
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  Marc Iverson on 9/6/2015, 2:46 pm

I had to deal with that misery too ... roots an inch thick from the surrounding forest land. Pulling them up was back-breaking. Despite the horrible expense, I'd almost rather have tabletops or nothing at all at this point ... or just grow in isolated containers ... the moles, voles, pocket gophers, and roots are so destructive and can take so much work to deal with.
avatar
Marc Iverson

Male Posts : 3638
Join date : 2013-07-05
Age : 56
Location : SW Oregon

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  Yardslave on 9/6/2015, 7:59 pm

My back took a beating too- I thought that 18" deep boxes were the way to go, but in hindsight I'd recommend tabletops or beds on solid concrete. In reality, with Mel's mix the veggie roots are happy with 6" deep boxes. It's funny, carrots just heave up when they bottom out!
avatar
Yardslave

Male Posts : 306
Join date : 2012-01-19
Age : 66
Location : Carmel Valley, Ca.

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  donnainzone5 on 9/6/2015, 8:13 pm

Or grow into L-shapes!
avatar
donnainzone5

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 2167
Join date : 2010-03-02
Age : 70
Location : Bend, OR (Zone 5-6)

View user profile http://www.amway.com/DonnaKBecker

Back to top Go down

Re: weeds???

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum