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Post  Scorpio Rising on 9/6/2015, 11:15 am

What is the spacing for kale? I can't find it in my book!
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Post  sanderson on 9/6/2015, 1:06 pm

Russian and Curly kale can get tall and full.  I planted 2/sq in a zig zag pattern and had to keep cutting the outer leaves all winter.  Poor me!  They reached 2 1/2 feet tall by spring.  It you have the room, 1/sq. I hope others at your latitude respond because this is at my lat.

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Post  Marc Iverson on 9/6/2015, 2:19 pm

Dinosaur kale can take up a lot of room too -- the leaves can get to be a foot long or more.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 9/6/2015, 2:39 pm

I usually pick them young so I stagger 4 and 5 Dwarf Blue Vates per sq.  The Dino's are going in 1 per sq next year. This year I put one every 6 inches and some are leaning over now.  I can put 2 or 3 Ripbors, but next year will probably try 1 Winterbor think.  Russian/Winter red probably should go in at 1 or 2. If 2, put them in like on a die.



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Post  yolos on 9/6/2015, 8:54 pm

I planted winterbor kale at 2 per square last year.  I just planted 4 per square and will probably remove 2 if needed.
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Post  donnainzone5 on 9/6/2015, 9:21 pm

I figure two per square.  In the past, I've done nine, and it does get very crowded.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 9/6/2015, 9:27 pm

I think I will try 3/sq. due to short season. Thanks everybody! If I had longer, and it could get more mature, 1/sq would be my pick.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 9/6/2015, 9:29 pm

I think I will try 3/sq. due to short season. Thanks everybody! If I had longer, and it could get more mature, 1/sq would be my pick.
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Post  Marc Iverson on 9/7/2015, 1:36 am

You'll be picking VERY young then. Even the dwarf kales can take up a square pretty easily.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 9/7/2015, 10:14 am

Really, Marc? Then I will go 1/sq because I don't get to my garden more than once/ week generally.
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Post  yolos on 9/7/2015, 10:51 am

Depends what variety you plant.  Here is Winterbor Kale on 10/18/14 planted 5 in  2' x 2' bed approx. 9/5/14.  Due to the cool weather, it grew real slowly and bolted in the early spring.


Here is Winterbor Kale planted 2 per square.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 9/7/2015, 10:58 am

It is a Burpee organic, Premier; packet says to space 18 inches, matures in 55 days.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 9/7/2015, 12:30 pm

@yolos wrote:I planted winterbor kale at 2 per square last year.  I just planted 4 per square and will probably remove 2 if needed.
Good to know that 2 per square could work. Thanks. I usually over seed my kale and collards because they transplant very easily and can be moved to an empty square when one becomes available.

Sometime this month, I'll be transplanting a lot of them into my kitchen garden that is right out the back door so that I can harvest through the winter. These are also the ones that will give me seeds next spring for the following years winter sprouts and for seeding the spring crop.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 3/5/2016, 12:59 pm

OK....my kale packet has mysteriously disappeared from my seed box. So, I am making a seed run. Having never grown kale, what should I buy? Winterbor? Or Dinosaur? Taste different? No kale experience here.
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Post  trolleydriver on 3/5/2016, 1:46 pm

I couldn't decide what to Kale to buy so I bought an organic Kale Mix. There are 8 different Kale in the packet.  It's going to be a surprise harvest.
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Post  donnainzone5 on 3/5/2016, 1:49 pm

I like the dwarf curly blue kale.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 3/5/2016, 2:38 pm

@trolleydriver wrote:I couldn't decide what to Kale to buy so I bought an organic Kale Mix. There are 8 different Kale in the packet.  It's going to be a surprise harvest.

Fun! The mesclun of kales!
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Post  CapeCoddess on 3/5/2016, 2:42 pm

@trolleydriver wrote:I couldn't decide what to Kale to buy so I bought an organic Kale Mix. There are 8 different Kale in the packet.  It's going to be a surprise harvest.
TG, would you mind posting a photo of the ingredients on that kale mix packet so we can see what types it contains? It sounds like a winner! 

SR, I agree with Donna, dwarf Curley Blue Vates is a good one to start with. It's easy to grow, small enough to put 4 in a square, and doesn't have an overwhelming flavor. Plus it's available for sale at my Job Lot or just about anywhere.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 3/5/2016, 2:45 pm

@donnainzone5 wrote:I like the dwarf curly blue kale.

Donna & CC: that is what I just bought at Walmart!  I think I will put 4 or possibly 5/SF, my "squares" are really 12x18" because they are old window boxes that were already built.  

Gonna hit the basement here in a few and put some more seeds in...thanks for the input! Exciting times
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Post  trolleydriver on 3/5/2016, 2:54 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:
@trolleydriver wrote:I couldn't decide what to Kale to buy so I bought an organic Kale Mix. There are 8 different Kale in the packet.  It's going to be a surprise harvest.
TG, would you mind posting a photo of the ingredients on that kale mix packet so we can see what types it contains? It sounds like a winner! 


CC ... the packet does not state which kinds of Kale are included. So I went to the website of the seller (Greta's Organic Gardens) and she has exactly 8 different kinds for sale and I assume the mix contains some of each of them. 

Here they are:

  • Dwarf Blue Curled
  • Jagallo Nero
  • Lacinato Blue
  • Lacinato Rainbow
  • Red Russian
  • Red Ursa
  • Vates
  • White Russian
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Post  CapeCoddess on 3/5/2016, 2:57 pm

Oh TD, this is very exciting! I don't know half of those. I'll be googling and reading up on them. Psyched!
thanks

Well done, SR!
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 3/5/2016, 8:24 pm

Windmere had sent me some Red Russian. Got 3 seeded last night.

I've only had kale once. It was VERY large and, as a result, quite bitter. So I'm hoping that harvesting early & young will be nice & sweet(er).
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Post  sanderson on 3/6/2016, 1:49 am

@CapeCoddess wrote:Oh TD, this is very exciting! I don't know half of those. I'll be googling and reading up on them. Psyched!
thanks

Well done, SR!
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 3/6/2016, 10:40 am

@AtlantaMarie wrote:Windmere had sent me some Red Russian.  Got 3 seeded last night.

I've only had kale once.  It was VERY large and, as a result, quite bitter.  So I'm hoping that harvesting early & young will be nice & sweet(er).

Ditto. Baby kale is better I have heard.
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