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Post  Lazy Daisy on 11/3/2015, 3:53 am

I,ve been out of action for a year and a half , recovering from big op  and find my beautiful compost heap ,which I used to turn regularly ,is now full of Bindweed . I dare not use it anywhere on the garden . What should I do ? These roots go down for miles !    I,m wondering if I should burn the lot and start again ....  ?   Sad

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Re: Compost Heap Disaster ! Heeelp !

Post  AtlantaMarie on 11/3/2015, 10:22 am

Oh, Lazy Daisy, I'm so sorry....  And I'm glad you're feeling better!

I'm not sure what advice to give you.  But I'm sure some of the others will jump in...

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 11/3/2015, 5:28 pm

Can you chop it all up? Or lie you said, burn it and start over. Glad you are better!

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Re: Compost Heap Disaster ! Heeelp !

Post  plantoid on 11/3/2015, 6:40 pm

Daisy ,
 Use the compost ,take out the bindweed  as you use the compost.
 Put the bindweed greenery & roots into a dustbin half filled with water and put the lid on it to keep the light out . Every week give the contents a stir & replace the lid .
 It will take a week or two before the roots start rotting down .

When they are well past recovery ..like khaki green stringy snot you can safely put them in the compost again . The water may well become stinky , blackish and have an oily looking residue on it .

You can put that liquid in the veg beds that are empty and not going to have roots as the next crop or pour it in the the new compost heap as you build the heap . It is a basic high bacteria liquid manure with all manner of trace elements in it .
Avoid getting it on the actual plants or your clothing .

 You can do this exercise with any pernicious ,invasive, unwanted perennial weed or other plant     IE. Rot aerobically it in water in the dark till it's past it's recovery stage then add it to the new compost pile .

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Re: Compost Heap Disaster ! Heeelp !

Post  sanderson on 11/4/2015, 3:19 pm

@plantoid wrote:  IE. Rot aerobically it in water in the dark till it's past it's recovery stage then add it to the new compost pile .
Anaerobically??

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Re: Compost Heap Disaster ! Heeelp !

Post  AtlantaMarie on 11/5/2015, 8:24 am

No oxygen.  Sounds like that would certainly work.  I'd make sure to keep it outside.  When you open that container, it'll stink!

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Re: Compost Heap Disaster ! Heeelp !

Post  Yardslave on 11/7/2015, 4:21 pm

Or... you could load it into thick gauge plastic bags, wet it down a little, and seal it up. Set the bags out in the sun and forget about it for a few months and anaerobic bacteria will decay the bindweed. Just remember not to overload the bags- they can get heavy enough to burst if you need to move them.

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Re: Compost Heap Disaster ! Heeelp !

Post  plantoid on 11/9/2015, 6:51 pm

Wahhhh !  Yes, it should have been anaerobically rot .
Being a bit dyslexic I didn't spot the error but can't get at it to edit it correctly.

My experience of using thick black plastic bags to try and kill the pernicious weeds is that , even if the weeds are quite wet & the bag is cable tie sealed , there is usually sufficient UV light getting through the bag plastic for the pernicious weeds to turn yellow and still survive even after a couple of years of being in the bag .. I guess it is also because there is a lot of air in such bags & they drink & recycle the humidity in the bag as well as still being able to consuming any useful released weak nutrients & trace elements .
 

Whereas I think that the submerged in water treatment , in total darkness excludes oxygen , dilutes any produced trace elements/ nutrients tremendously and produces lots of anaerobic bacteria that feed on the released nutrients /trace elements & helps break the plants down even more.




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Re: Compost Heap Disaster ! Heeelp !

Post  Kelejan on 11/9/2015, 8:55 pm

Daisy, when you take out the bindweed from the compost, you must make sure you get every last piece.

Thanks, plantoid, I will try and do that with my pernicious horsetail (or marestail?)

PS Welcome back, Daisy.

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